Yeah Kirk, I can address that... soon....

Quote from: keith brimmer on June 14, 2007, 04:17:00 PM
WELL said molson

Ditto. Great and wise words, thanks Mr Molson.

Just read this entire thread and ordered the DVD. This stuff is priceless, thanks Terry!

I know everybody is different, but in my case I had to reach a certain amount of proficiency before I realized that I needed to improve my form. It wasn't until I could put 6 consecutive arrows into a 3 inch circle at 25 yards followed by 6 more at twice that spread that I realized my form was inconsistent.

Thanks again Terry, and all who've contributed to this thread.

Quote from: Kirkll on September 04, 2022, 11:53:53 AM
I just reread this whole thread and noticed this topic hasn't had a post in years. I have referred this topic to many guys struggling with form issues over the years, and it has some priceless info.

I have a question for you Terry. Although string torque has been brought up several times,  There is no mention of hand placement on the bow or wrist rotation and how it can effect bow torque or alignment.

This is something I'd love to hear your views on because i think it could help a lot of guys when developing proper alignment, and also help bow arm clearance issues.

Thanks,      Kirk

I totally forgot about this Kirk.... so sorry.... I'll post on this soon....

Please realize that this thread started back in 2007, and my stick figures made in 'paint' were all that were really available to the non computer illiterate.  However, this thread has recently, due to the recent DVD sales have inquired many questions....

Therefor I moved this thread from a stickied position on the shooters forum to here on the Powwow for more exposure for the time being.... and I'll move it back to the Shooters Form Forum at a later date.

This thread has been a cornerstone of Tradgang for a decade and a half.  Nice to see it here on the Powwow for what ever limited time deemed. 

This thread, and Terry's form clock has helped me immensely. So grateful.

The total complete alignment of domination.


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Glad to see this post is still around after all these years. 

This is pure gold!!!  The DVD was also a great help!

Ttt

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Hey Terry....  Glad to see this back up top again... Speaking of which... You never did answer my question on hand placement on the bow that i asked several years ago...LOL 

I know...you are a busy guy....  But during our phone conversation the other day, you used the most beautiful description of hand placement that i ever heard before, and do not want to mis quote it...

Could you share your thoughts on different grip shapes and put that expression you used for hand placement into text for the guys here? i think many would appreciate it as much as i did.   

Kirk

Quote from: Kirkll on April 10, 2025, 03:26:51 PM
Hey Terry....  Glad to see this back up top again... Speaking of which... You never did answer my question on hand placement on the bow that i asked several years ago...LOL 

I know...you are a busy guy....  But during our phone conversation the other day, you used the most beautiful description of hand placement that i ever heard before, and do not want to mis quote it...

Could you share your thoughts on different grip shapes and put that expression you used for hand placement into text for the guys here? i think many would appreciate it as much as i did.   

Kirk

I would like to hear that description as well.

I would like to hear more on bow grip/ hand placement as well

Hang on guys, I'll be back in a bit.....

OK, I have killed animals with bows of all sorts of grips. I've never found a grip that made me shoot bad.  However, I do have some I really like that are 'comfortable'. I don't prefer  total straight grips, dish is good, and do not like grips with palm swells.  Yes, I can shoot the daylights out with them, but I hate hunting with them as they are like carrying a bow running through a softball.

I have shown/demonstraited shooting by holding the bow by the lower fade outs many times over the years when explaining how I grip the bow.

This is what KirK is talking about... my description....

When I grip the bow properly, as the pressure is applied by the draw, I 'Yeild' to the grip. The yield gets a little more fine tuned as I get a little further into the draw. I let the pressure of the bow grip go where it needs to, I don't force it.  Hope that makes sense.

Here are two different grips I've done really well with....

This is my '1 out of 4' MOABs grip, the 60#er.  I've killed way more animals with this bow/grip that any.....

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And this is my latest bow/grip that has been on a tear that's close to being 2nd soon..  Centaur....

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Side by side...

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There it is... ... That is the best  description of hand placement I've ever heard.

I've tried to help guys over the years that we're having torque issues or forcing the bow into a canted position by gripping the bow too much,  by explaining natural wrist rotation, and letting the bow settle into your open hand as you draw the bow.

But the expression "Yeild your hand to the grip shape" and letting the bow tell you where the pressure balance point is located is absolutely spot on....

If you want to shoot with an extreme cant , bend at the waist. If you want to do a back bend with a reverse cant.... No problem...
Once you have your arrows tuned properly and your alignment established at full draw anchor point, your fingers on your bow hand  should still be relaxed.


It's a thing of beauty to behold....      Thanks Terry!     

Thanks Kirk.  Yes, forcing the bow to be gripped the way you want it to is often not as good as holding the bow the way it wants to be held.

More grip examples coming....

Grip on a Mohawk Sparrowhawk which was a gift to me from Rob DiStefano with the inscription 'Best Friend'.  Hogs, pheasants, impala, and quail.

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