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Offline B.O.D.

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Terry's form-clock : question?
« on: June 12, 2007, 07:59:00 AM »
Terry, Does that "T" work for all builds??

I was a competitive powerlifter for many years, deadlifts, rack-pull, heavy shrugs etc...I have tried to make the "T" and physically cannot do it, it feels like I am crushing my traps/shoulder blades together.

Now, if I alter my anchor and  anchor to the back of my jawbone, it feels very close to a "T"( short arms), but wearing glasses when I shoot does not allow me to anchor way back there.

any tips?
Thanks,
BD

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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2007, 12:42:00 PM »
The BEST way for me to answer you question is on 'The Bowhunters of Trad Gang DVD'.  I go into detail on proper alignment, back tension, double anchoring...etc.

Its so much easier to see and hear than to try and convey it here in the typed word, but we'll give her a try since the clock pics have been helpfull to many...


I'm sure it wont work exactly perfect for all builds, but the goal is to get as close to that alignment as possible.

Proper alignment will serve you better as a shooter, no matter if you are shooting targets or hunting. It will make your shot more forgiving in the bowhunter's world of not so perfect shots, positions, and terrain.

It will give you a better release, steadier bow arm, and less torque on the bow and string.
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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2007, 09:20:00 PM »
Terry,

Can you explain the "T" for those of us who missed the initial discussion(s), or point us to some older threads?

Thanks,

Snakeeater
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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2007, 09:39:00 PM »
Sure Snake.........There's going to be a little session in the The Bowhunters of Trad Gang DVD soon to come out...but let me see what I can find till then.....I think there's lots of info on this form already.....I'll have a look, and report back.

Terry
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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2007, 09:56:00 PM »
THIS...


       


EQUALS THIS...

       


And NOT this....  Shoulders and arrow Parallel.


       


And this...

       

Does NOT equal this......Shoulders, arrow AND Power Points Parallel.

       
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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2007, 09:58:00 PM »
When shooting downward.....

The Brown line is the waist......

     

  Same as shooting upward, don't just raise the bow arm....bend at the waist and keep your alignment the same.
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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2007, 10:01:00 PM »
Set up like this....No

     

Ends you up here in the blink of an eye....

     
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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2007, 10:03:00 PM »
This........

     

NOT like this.......

     
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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2007, 10:09:00 PM »
NO

   

NO

   

NO

   
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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2007, 10:28:00 PM »
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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2007, 10:43:00 PM »
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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2007, 08:22:00 AM »
Thanks man.  :bigsmyl:  good schematics.
BD

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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2007, 09:08:00 AM »
Thanks Tarz, that helps alot.
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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2007, 01:07:00 PM »
terry you mentioned the trad gang dvd is this an instructional dvd or the one on pow wow that tom is compiling

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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2007, 10:48:00 AM »
Keith......one and the same video.
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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2007, 11:05:00 AM »


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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2007, 11:37:00 AM »
terry the drawings are excellent and so simple.just hard to do consistently. lol

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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2007, 11:56:00 AM »
Keith......not so hard to do if you use a double anchor to make sure you get your back tension.
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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2007, 03:30:00 PM »
Nice job putting this all together on one post Terry.

To get back to the original question, the overlooked truth about form is it's all about straight lines.  Your goal is to get that arrow to leave the bow in as straight a line as possible despite the bow and your influence on it.  Understanding that this is the whole purpose of form (and tuning) often gets lost in the little singular pieces that make up your shooting.

You may look a little different than Terry, but if you make the right adjustments to fit you, you can achieve proper alignment, which will lead to consistent shooting with dilligent practice.

One other thing for the new fellows coming over from the compound.  You will not be regularly splitting nocks in two days, two weeks, or two years. Traditional archery takes time, experience, knowledge, and your commitment to achieve proficiency.  This is not a game of instant success.  Accept this now and dedicate yourself to improvement, or move on and save yourself a bunch of disappointment.
"The old ways will work in the future, but the new ways have never worked in the past."

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Re: Terry's form-clock : question?
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2007, 04:17:00 PM »
WELL said molson

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