HH bug got me ... Part One!

[toddster]

I would love to buy a few shirts of howard Hill, and a medallion is awesome idea.

[Swamp Yankee]

Originally posted by Rob DiStefano:
rik - looks good!

dan - true wood inlays are an art that their price tags reflect.  there are other methods that look pretty good, but far cheaper.  a round, relatively thin medallion coin is a piece of cake to embed in any wood.

I fully agree installing a coin is a slam dunk, even though I cring at taking any power tool to a bow that's as much a work of art as it is a hunting tool.  

I was just wondering (separate question) how they do the extreme fine detail inlay on their risers for something as complicated as their Whitetail.

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by Swamp Yankee:
... I was just wondering (separate question) how they do the extreme fine detail inlay on their risers for something as complicated as their Whitetail.

a closer look at the hh elk inlay shows it to be fine inlaid.  the elk image itself is precut and the fine detail lines are cut into the inlay itself, the the entire inlay is embedded within the riser - hand cut - and secured with black epoxy to hide any slight imperfections in the wood cutting (done with a dremel).  best done on darker woods.

 

[tradlongbow]

Rik-

I like the pic that you posted, that's my favorite pic of Howard.

My vote goes to that pic. of Howard drawing the bow.


Toddster-

I agree, we should do a T-shirt and a medallion.


Darren

[tadpole]

I would be in on that.  Sounds like a good idea.

[tradlongbow]

How about:

"The American Flat Bow Shooters Gang"

"The Classic American Flat Bow Gang"


Darren

Originally posted by Mudd:

I know there are some folks that might think I could possibly change bows more frequently than my shirt but If I have a bow that would warrant a medallion, it would have a permanent home.

God bless,Mudd

   depending on the week, that could be true!   (JK)

[30coupe]

Originally posted by tradlongbow:
How about:

"The American Flat Bow Shooters Gang"

"The Classic American Flat Bow Gang"


Darren

How about "Tradgang American Flat Bow Shooters"

I think we need to get Tradgang in there somewhere.

[Swamp Yankee]

Ah, NOW I see how they do that.  Thanks

[Rik]

The Hill Bow Society  --------  HBS

[tradlongbow]

Rik-
I'm thinking.....

American Flat Bow Society-------AFBS

Darren

I believe the word "classic" adequately describes the era/origin of our "true" (American, flat, semi-long, "D" etc.) longbow.  

When I think of a longbow, the strongest image I get in my aging brain can be seen in the hand of Howard Hill in Rik's pic.  

I guess my bow is somewhat flat but that in itself is insignificant to me.  If I understand correctly, history credits Howard Hill and his followers as giving birth to and raising up a new era in American history within an ancient history of the longbow worldwide.  My Halfbreed, in my way of thinking is a Classic Longbow.

Just like cars (or most anything else) longbows have changed...and are changing.  They have become short...and even very short (a short longbow, hah) and extremely deflexed, reflexed, and hyperflexed.  They come in all shapes and sizes with varying degrees of effeciency from being "dogs" to "smokers".  Who knows what we will see in the future and it does not matter, really.  I am stuck in a period of time having been captured by the elegance and simplicity of the Hill-style longbow.

I really like the image of the Hill broadhead - it firmly stamps our place in history as a brotherhood of hunters.  I really like the silver inlay but a silver decal under a couple clear finish coats would look just dandy.  

I will soon receive a longbow made with hands driven by a passion to keep this classic icon alive.

Lucky me!!         :p

Mudd, can you still smell the glue?

[David Mitchell]

Hmmm, Tony..Mudd, glue sniffing is a serious problem don't you guys know that?    

[joevan125]

When i order my Hill im going to ask them if they can draw that pic. of Howard drawing his bow. They probably can but at a great expense, what do you guys think.

Joe Van

[joevan125]

Another thing explain this string follow follow and what it means to the bow and how it shoots, etc.

Originally posted by David Mitchell:
Hmmm, Tony..Mudd, glue sniffing is a serious problem don't you guys know that?          

David,
...uhhh....ya..Dang it!  I'm tryin' to quit.   Perhaps some counseling is in order, eh? :cool:

[Benny Nganabbarru]

Joe, string follow is where the limbs are set back slightly toward the string, or archer, when unstrung - instead of being a perfectly straight line, it has a slight bend back toward the string. The verdict is that it makes the bow slightly less fast, slightly less thumpy (if you believe that the straight ones thump, which many of us don't) and more forgiving - easier to shoot accurately. I have two straight Hills and one string follow Hill, and I can see the difference in speed, I think, but not in accuracy - they're all accurate.

[Rik]

Well Boys and Girls,

I received a great present this Wonderful Christmas day. I had thought I was far, far away from the way Howard Hill shot, and always felt a bit out of the norm, but I watched a video clip today that showed Howard doing the exact same follow through that I do.

If you are interested, go to YouTube and type in the following.

filmato raro da gandabas

The top find will be a Howard Hill video clip. Click on it and watch the two bottle shots. You will see Howard follow through the same way I do.

I had always read that he moved nothing at the shot, but on those two shots, he clearly squeezes those two strong muscles between his shoulder blades together, forcing his string hand to his right shoulder after the shot.

Nothing could be more familiar to me. That's the shot Man, that's the SHOT!

filmato raro da gandabas


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=QbCGoqk3S4s&feature=endscreen

[mikebiz]

I really like the coin/medallion idea.  Way to go Rob.  Since we are starting off with a circular item maybe text going around the outer edge should read something like:

Circle of the American Semi-Longbow

The circle obviously representing our connection to each other through the mystique and legend of the American Semi-Long.  A round coin would be easy to inset or glue on as has been mentioned before.  Gotta have the wording done in a cool text type also.  It's gotta pop and standout.  

I do not think that using the Hill broadhead is appropriate.  Dick Wightman used that on the Longbowman's Choice bows and I for one wouldn't want to steal his idea.  I also don't believe that an image of a broadhead accurately depicts the message this medallion is attempting to express.  Not everyone hunts with these bows, so a broadhead may never come off the string of some of them.  

I feel that the image must show the bow itself, or a portion of it, in some form.  Aside for some reverse riser Hills, the shape of the riser and grip stands out to me as the most unique aspect of this longbow style.  I think the deep, narrow teardrop grip is most representative of the bow and since it is large and simple in design it would make for an easy re-creation on a coin.  So, how about the riser section of an American Semi-Long.  Or maybe the handle section with a hand around it in the classic, heel-down Hill grip.  

Just throwing it out there, but I think it could look very cool.