Whoa!!! I got this bug BAD! I'm gonna place an order for another bow after having had my Wesley Special for only 7 days. So much fun to shoot I gotta have one that's good for bear and moose.

Thinking of a Redman or a Half Breed. Can anyone post some pictures of these models to help me decide?

Thanks, Don!

No problem Ben, If you want some different ones of it from different angles let me know. It has cocobolo tip overlays on it to.

I put my great northern strap on quiver on today. The extra weight kinda feels good. I oredered the straps from EFA going to make one of Rik's frankenquiver's out of an old black widow 5-7 quiver I have.

Don, thanks for that offer! I'll take you up on it! I think this thread needs a big mob of Croc photos from different angles - perhaps various close-ups combined with some profile shots... Cheers, eh!

Older Crocodile . third from left after the wood has lost its "yellow" ...


Third from bottom ...


Crocodile , Deer hunting in the Victorian Alps


On the far right .. a new Crocodile still beautifully "yellow "

Very nice stable ya have there Ben! Croc is on my to have list for sure. I really like the way the wood ages over time.
Tim

I've been out doing a little comparison test between a couple of Hills. I've got a hog hunt coming up next week and have been vacillating between the two.

Bow #1 is a 69" Halfbreed, marked 45@29, with a 8 strand D-97. With my custom straight grip on it, I draw it to just shy of 31". I have no idea what it really pulls, but let's say it's probably around 52-53 at my draw.

Bow #2 is a 70" Cheetah, marked 50@28, with a D50. It has a locator grip and I pull it a touch over 30.5". Again, I have no idea how accurate the marked poundage is, but I'm figuring 58-60 at my draw.

I've been shooting woodies out of both of them, but to be honest, the arrows, even full-length are too short. More often than not, I find myself pulling a broadhead hard up against the riser. A couple of times, it has been forceful enough to pull the arrow off the string. Every time I do it, I have to let down and make sure the arrow is still on the string. So far, I've avoided a dry fire, but I honestly don't want to have to think about that on a hunt. So, I've made up some Arrow Dynamics arrows for each.

Out of the Halfbreed, my choice is a Traditional Lite, full-length, stock aluminum insert, reflective cap wrap, 3x4 shields, and a 225 grain point for a total of 600 grains.

Out of the Cheetah, I'm using a Hammerhead Lite, full-length, stock insert, same wrap, 3x4, and a 250 grain point for total weight of 690 grains.

My decidedly unscientific testing reveals practically the same arrow speed for both setups. I did some flight shooting using some reference points and ended up with a dozen arrows in a 6'x3' foot oval at something over 200 yards.

All in all, I'm about equally accurate with both,  but I'm leaning toward using the Halfbreed on this hunt. I've been shooting this bow exclusively for over a year now, and have taken a few coyotes, a passel of squirrels, a couple of big groundhogs, and a couple of doves, so it has good mojo. The weight is very easy to pull, too. I'll note that for a Hill bow, 69" is as short as I can go at my draw length.

For broadheads, I'm going to use some 145 grain Eclipse on 75 grain steel inserts. I've got them shaving sharp and a high polish on the edge, thanks to my new Razoredge system. They should have no problem on some of the big hogs I'll be after.

I'll post some pics later on of the bows and the setups I'll be using.

I finally got to shoot in the daylight the HH I recently bought from Dave Mitchell. I have had some 55-60 spined woodies for a while to shoot out of my Bear recurve but I think I have found a good match with the HH Big Five. It's hard for me to believe that something so light can pack such a thump when these woodies hit the bale. It actually rocks the bale when the arrows strike even though I'm shooting in the end of the bale.

Thanks again Dave for this opportunity.





I too have been bitten by the HH bug.

Great shooting with a new bow Bud!!  What distance were those shots taken from?

Joe

QuoteOriginally posted by Joe Subler:
Great shooting with a new bow Bud!!  What distance were those shots taken from?

Joe

Not far. From my front porch to the bale is about 12 yards, right at my comfortable hunting distance.

Looks like your both getting along pretty well to me Bud!

I just picked up another Hill for my collection, a "Centennial" model. This is the only markings on the bow.

 

A narrow handle

   

It has 5 lamination's of bamboo, Myrtlewood riser, white glass on the belly and dark green on the back.

 

 

 

Anyone else have a Centennial model?

Congrats Mr. LaClair!!

Very nice bows Ben!!!!

looper
I have the same problem with shooting woods, my draw is 31.5 to 32'' I will be in search for 33 to 34''wood shafts this winter. The HH bug has bitten.

Hey Ben,

Those are some nice looking bows. Who makes the first one and the second from last (looking left to right)?

Rossco ... the first is the wonderful Liberty English , all yew lams made by T'Gang sponsor Allen Boice at Liberty bows and the second to last is a Belcher Union Jack

Ben, you know Crocodiles are warm-blooded and don't thrive in snowy habitats!

Great photos, mate!

Rob, Ben Maher has just posted a heck of a good photo of him shooting his Hill Crocodile on some sand dune near the beach; I think it needs to go in that slide-show!

QuoteOriginally posted by Ben Kleinig:
Rob, Ben Maher has just posted a heck of a good photo of him shooting his Hill Crocodile on some sand dune near the beach; I think it needs to go in that slide-show!

Who would have thought that Ben had beach front property