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Hunting land: how small is too small?

Started by evgb127, October 14, 2015, 09:23:00 AM

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evgb127

I received an unsolicited invitation to hunt my neighbor's 2.5 acre wooded lot, which is adjacent to my 2.5 acres of woods and approximately 5 more acres of vacant land used for utility access.  So, in total, the property forms a "L" shape of about ten acres.  The entire plot is surrounded by suburbs.  Technically there is enough land for me to legally hunt (50+ yard buffers on all sides), but just because something is legal doesn't mean that I should do it.  My gut reaction is to pass, even though there are way too many deer in that little plot of land.  Am I making the right decision?
-EVG

9 Shocks

HUNT IT!

2 of my absolute best spots are 6 acres and 5 acres.  The 6 acre spot is part of roughly 75 acres of woods but its the right 6 acres.  It is at a narrow pinch point and the deer funnel through it...especially come rut time.  Its also full of big white oaks!  The 5 acre spot I only hunt during the rut because the deer just arent there as much until then.  Its more of a travel corridor.  I have killed probably 15 deer between the two spots and passed or missed many more.  Small spots can be VERY productive.  You just have to hunt them at the right times.
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Ryan Rothhaar

You know the area best - it isn't about whether you can shoot one on a small place, but where it will end up.  You mention it being in suburbs... if a deer ending up dead in the neighbor's swimming pool or under their kid's swing set is a real possibility then you know what is probably best....

R

Sam McMichael

You have two important considerations:

1. Is it big enough? You have deer, you have the required legal buffer, and you have room to make the shot. This favors hunting the property.

2. Ryan Rothhaar makes a very valid point about where the deer may actually fall. Some neighbors may be utterly appalled to have a deer fall outside the dining room window while they try to enjoy breakfast. In our area, though, there are some who may try to lay claim to your deer.

Before hunting it, you might want to get a consensus of opinion from families in the neighborhood, especially those with children.
Sam

9 Shocks

I have had most all of the deer I shot on my small parcels die on them too.  Stand placement is a big thing.  The 2 times I had deer die somewhere else, I knocked on the door of the property where they died, told them the situation and they were like sure come get your deer.  I suppose I was lucky in that aspect. Asking neighbors might help as mentioned above.
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58" Schafer Silvertip recurve 47@27
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JohnV

If you are hunting on 2.5 acres it is a virtual certainty that any deer that you shoot will fall dead on someone else's property.  What kind of reception will you get when you go to recover the deer?  Are the neighbors supportive of reducing the size of the deer herd?
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I killed my first deer on a 10ac tract. I would think it would be fine.

Bisch

evgb127

Polling the neighbors is a great idea.  As I said in the original post, the offer to hunt was totally unsolicited.  What I did not mention, however, is that the offer may have been made because my neighbor has had to replace his landscaping due to deer browse and take his children to get checked for Lyme disease on more than one occasion.  I'm interested to see what my other neighbors think about this, especially because of the very real possibility of a "deer ending up dead in the neighbor's swimming pool."
-EVG

bear bowman

I think you should ask the other neighbors. This guy obviously wants the deer herd thinned. You never know, the rest of the neighbors may want the same thing.

last arrow

I'm not going to comment on whether to hunt or not.  But the biggest buck I ever saw was standing under an apple tree in someones yard when driving between West Chester and Exton.
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Archie

I would hunt if all the adjacent neighbors were not opposed to it.  That means asking them first, and explaining the possibility of a dead deer on their property.

Get permission, do a good job, earn their respect... and maybe one of the neighbors will end up inviting you to hunt on their 4000+ acres somewhere else...
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Stump73

Check with other neighbors.  Heck you may in up with more property to hunt.
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old_goat2

I would be leery to hunt with a bow, too much chance of the deer running off the land you have permission to be on! Even when hunting with a rifle on something like that, I would want to go with total overkill on the setup. Now if it was surrounded by friendly farmland or public property, it would be plenty big I guess! There are places in this country still that the deer leaving the property and dieing elsewhere generally isn't a problem! Here in the Denver Metro, I wouldn't dream of it!
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tarponnut

Personally, I would inform the adjacent neighbors that you WILL be hunting and just wanted them to be aware of it. (in a nice way, obviously)
Maybe use a string tracker, just make sure you practice with it first. Good luck.

Bowwild

I'm with tarponnut.  They neighbors don't own the property and apparently the law allows you the use of the land.

However, I do think it is neighborly to let them know you will be hunting and a deer might make it beyond where you are hunting. You can then seek advance permission to retrieve the deer if it does go where you don't have permission to be.

Most of my bow-killed deer have dropped inside of 70 yards. I've shot deer with rifles that made it that far as well.

I would seek to hunt furthest from the edge of "yards" as I the property will permit.

swamper

It is hard to decide,but under 5 acre piece I hunted a couple of deer I harvested didnt want to run into the neighborhood.I sat a couple hours after the shot and did my best not to let the deer know I was there.

John3

I would hunt that in a heartbeat... "Urban" deer grow old and large...  Only take perfect shots where you know the deer will die in that small wood lot.
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shedhunta

I live very close to you and I do it all the time.  Shot selection is crucial.  If you are legal go for it!!!

I
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wislnwings

I would do as suggested and speak to the other neighbors.  I would be polite and let them know that you can legally hunt there but wanted to be neighborly and let them know in advance. You may find that more of them are in favor of it due to landscape damage.  That could even lead to additional permission to hunt.  Worst case, you find that many are not in favor of it and may cause problems if your deer falls on the wrong side of a property line.  You never know if you don't ask.  I've always found being up front and honest with landowners has paid off more than once for me.  Good luck either way.

Terry Lightle

It is not size,but location.The best place I ever had to hunt was maybe 10 acres,but it was in the right place.
Terry
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