Grizzly Broadheads~ Bevels ?

[Carcajou]

I shoot right handed, with Left Wing feathers...sooooo...I wanna shoot Left Wing bevel Grizzlies...Correct??  

[Pat B.]

Yes, they say you want to match the bevel to the feather, right wing - right bevel ...

[TOEJAMMER]

Yes but right handed or left makes no difference.  Just match the feather wing with the broadhead bevel.

[Tajue17]

Hmm,, my experiement this season is I'm trying RW bevel grizzlys on my LW fletched arrows this season.... the above posts are right but my theory is the bevel will cut in its correct direction upon impact,,,, wondering if anyone else has tried this but we'll see.

[KentuckyTJ]

Tajue17,

Why would you want the arrow to fight the direction it is already rotating once it hits??? The whole purpose to the head turning as it cuts is to get more penetration?

[refugerambler]

Do they offer them in a double bevel?
 

[maxwell]

Right wing right bevel-left wing left bevel.  It does make a difference very noticeable in my targets once I started doing as Dr. Ashby suggested.

[Carcajou]

thanks everyone..hello Maxwell!  

It makes perfect sense to match the bevel to the wing, that is why I started to make my own left wing Hills before left wing Grizzlies were available. However, I cannot say that the deer I shoot, it has made all that much difference. The arrows still fly through, but I think we may be seeing a bit more blood on the ground.

[BearCrkBandit]

Tajue17, I think TJ is right, if you use a RW bevel with LW feathers, it will hurt penetration, if you just push the broadhead even through a piece of paper you can feel it naturally wanting to rotate with the way it's bevel.

[Jwilliam]

I have to agree with TJ on this one as well.


Bill

[Tajue17]

I know all about bevels and how they work I have about 40 abowyer BH's here matched to the fletch ,,  but I want to see what will happen,,,,  we all know opnce on impact a double bevel head stops spinning, its fact and we know this based on the cuts,, so is it hype or will the Broadhead's bevel if Left bevel or right bevel take control of the arrow at that point and still cut into its bevel rotation?  

I think it will and if it doesn't it cannot be any worse than a a double bevel which all the double bevel fans will agree its plenty lethal.

I think I should be trying this with wider degree bevel heads like abowyers but the grizz's I got cheap and figure they are the most popular.

we'll see if its hype or not, I hope sunday Morning at first light.

[Alexander Traditional]

I bought some this year and it's what I will be using,but I did match the bevel just because it's too easy not to. There was a thread not too long ago about Grizzly heads and a few people stated they used them both ways and saw very little difference,but i'm going to stick with same bevel.

[amicus]

It will probably cut in the direction of the bevel, because thats what its supposed to do. It just will not have the advantage of already spinning in the direction of the bevel.

Gilbert

[Carcajou]

Is there a newer grizzly version out now ? I had heard something that there was a pre sharpened version..160 gr..double bevel...something...anyone know??

[TOEJAMMER]

TJ,

Friends and I have been using the 160 grain Grizzly for many years when Harry Elburg made them.  He only made a right wing bevel and we always used left wing fletch.  Never had a problem with penetration on everything from deer, bear and elk.  I'm sure matching the bevel to the wing on the fletch is the way to go but dead is dead.

[mikebiz]

There are new Grizzlies being offered, Carcajou.  The company was bought by Zipper Bows and from what I have read they have greatly improved the heads.  They are now factory ground by KME so that they only need a little touch up to be hunt ready.  There are five weight options in the Grizzly head, plus a 200gn Kodiak which is a little longer than the Grizzly.  As far as I know they are only available in single bevel.  This is the broadhead I intend to use this year as it has received a lot of praise.  

grizzlybroadheads is the website.

[KentuckyTJ]

Originally posted by TOEJAMMER:
TJ,

Friends and I have been using the 160 grain Grizzly for many years when Harry Elburg made them.  He only made a right wing bevel and we always used left wing fletch.  Never had a problem with penetration on everything from deer, bear and elk.  I'm sure matching the bevel to the wing on the fletch is the way to go but dead is dead.

I am positive the left/right combo would kill something I didn't say it wouldn't. I am simply saying that if the arrow is rotating one direction already why (Now that Bill makes both bevels) would you want to reverse the rotation direction?

I have often wondered if under some circumstances or with certain fletching, if cross winging could cause an aerodynamic problem. I use a fairly hard twist with 5 or 5.5 inch feathers and am not sure, but there have been a couple of times that I thought that I could see something different in the shot when cross winging in the wind.

[ErikT]

In a perfect world it would probably be nice to match the bevel to the fletching but does it really matter?  Jim Abel, who manufactured the heads 2 owners ago, said it did not matter.
Imagine if you spun the arrow shaft as fast as you possibly could then pinched the arrow between 2 fingers to stop the rotation.  How much energy would it take to stop the arrow from spinning?  Not much.  Your two fingers would stop the rotation with ease.  I am not a physicist by any stretch of the imagination but I would think that the forward momentum of the arrow would override any centrifugal forces that take place as the arrow spins.  The arrow would stop spinning the instant it penetrated the hide anyway.  I would think that the bh bevel only comes into play when the bh hits solid material.