MO CWD FYI

[kennym]

Mo has had 16 cases as of May 2012

11 in captive deer

5 in free ranging deer

A CWD containment zone is comprised of Adair, Chariton, Linn , Macon, Sullivan, and Randolph Counties.

In this zone, minerals, salts, grain and other consumable products are now prohibited.

The four point antler restriction has been lifted in above counties.

This is just a small amount of the info listed in the new reg book, you probably need to read up on the No. MO hunting if you plan to hunt deer up this way!

http://mdc.mo.gov/hunting-trapping/regulations/deer-regulations

As much as I like trail cam pics, I have pulled all my salt and mineral blocks as of this afternoon.

Will have to form a new plan to get the pics I guess...

I figure whatever I can do to help slow the spread, I will do.  

i would think enough of the minerals have leeched into the ground so the deer will continue to come to the spot where it was and eat the dirt, you might just leave your cameras up and continue getting photos of your heard.

[Charlie Lamb]

Thanks for the update buddy!! Fortunate that it only applies to HALF of the counties I hunt.
 

[kennym]

Bryant, I know the minerals will be there for a long time, but I put pics up on my site for the lease, so I don't want any question about whether I have salt out.    

Charlie, we "shouldn't" see it over here for quite awhile, and they didn't list Shelby Co., I think you said you hunt over there also.  

[mqqse]

Good to know, but sad to hear.

[awbowman]

Thanks, a couple of buddies and I were just discussing a hunt around there last night

[ChuckC]

Interesting how, whenever there is a finding of CWD in a new area. . .  there are captive deer or elk in the vicinity.  Hmmm  I wonder. . .
ChuckC

[kennym]

Chuck, my thoughts exactly, it always starts there, huh?

No restrictions on captive deer yet tho???

Hmmm

[ChuckC]

and I doubt you will ever get any DNR to state that it is the reason.

We the people are letting a treasured few screw up everything for M. Nature.
ChuckC

[Eric Sprick]

Thanks for the info. Hopefully it will be contained.

Eric

[kennym]

Eric, I don't know if it can be contained. The stuff stays in the soil, and we have a lot of runoff during spring rains here. And the downstream deer drink from every creek.

Damn!

[Eric Sprick]

Damn is right Kenny

Eric

[SlowBowinMO]

Thanks for the update Kenny!

[8Crow]

The comments about where it starts are dead-on.  Do a little research and you'll see the very first case in the US was a captive mule deer in Colorado.  It ALWAYS starts with a game farm, the state biologists know this, and yet no one seems willing to take on the game farms.

As Kenny said, once you have it, you don't get rid of it, and all health departments will advise you not to eat any deer/elk/moose you suspect is infected.  And to top it off, MO doesn't have a network in place yet for hunters to bring in their deer for testing outside of the few counties they're watching.  To me, it is a tragedy.  I really hoped  we'd never see the day...

[Stone Sheep]

The USDA and the Department of Agriculture have all the control over game farms in Missouri. MDC's hands are pretty much tied. MDC can only try to controll the spread once CWD has already gotten out. This is just another reason that i can't stand canned hunts/game farms!!!

[kennym]

Then the usda and doa need to get busy!

This is something we don't need.

I detest canned hunts also.

[8Crow]

You guys may not have heard about it, but there was a bill making its way through the Missouri legislature a few months ago that would've allowed the Dept of Ag to regulate deer and some other game animals as livestock, which would probably have made it that much easier to start a game farm.  I emailed my senator, rep and the governor and the only one that sent a real reply was Nieves who said he didn't think the bill would make it.

I'm not sure how it works today if the DOA regulates it and yet deer etc are not considered livestock.  But at any rate, according to the QDMA, there have been similar pushes in at least a dozen other states to go 180 degrees from where we should be going.

[jonsimoneau]

Hopefully MO does not go overboard with this CWD thing.  Wisconsin went off the deep end in my opinion.  I do not believe CWD can be eradicated nor do I believe it can be contained.  I also do not think it has nearly as much effect on a deer herd as what some believe.

[8Crow]

I take it back...apparently the first case WAS in a captive facility, but it was a research facility, not a game farm.

Some really interesting info here:  www.cwd-info.org.   Most especially concerning all the research on soil and infection.  If I understood it all, the research says there is a particular type of clay the prions bond to and when that clay is consumed (think mineral lick) it actually increases the rate of infection 700x over a direct exposure without the clay.  :eek:   I think I won't be spending anymore money on trophy rock.  And not only that, but it stays potent in the dirt for years.

They also found that deer feces contains the prions long before they actually show symptoms, so they're just walking around spreading it.

Can't really comment on Wisconsin, but I did just read a F&S blog about how Scott Walker appointed Dr. Kroll as deer "trustee".  Should be interesting to see what comes of that.

[awbowman]

Found a map of the US that shows all states to have positive tests for CWD?

http://www.cwd-info.org/index.php/fuseaction/about.map