aluminum advice

Blaino · May 09, 2012, 02:29:00 PM

I got a new bow last week. Its a 64" Griffin thats 49# @ 28. I draw right at 30". So, I'm figuring the its 55# @ 30" for me.

I'd like to shoot some swedged aluminum this fall with 125g WW on the killing end. The arrow charts get confusing for me when I try to factor in my draw length and I'm not sure how of the size arrows that take swedging well.

Bernie B. · May 09, 2012, 02:33:00 PM

I shoot the same setup as you, weight wise and draw length. 2018's fly great from my bows. Be aware though, don't order Legacy shafts for your draw length. Easton has shortened the length, and they're too short for me now.

Bernie Bjorklund

NC Iowa/SW Wisconsin

OS · May 09, 2012, 02:45:00 PM

I have shot a simular set up (little higher poundage) but with 200 grain heads and found 2216 to work GREAT. 2018 are a nice saft depending on the size and weight of broadhead. In my opinion anyway (from what I have found shooting BIG heads)with your lighter poundage 2117 may work well also.

Blaino · May 09, 2012, 03:02:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Bernie B.:
I shoot the same setup as you, weight wise and draw length. 2018's fly great from my bows. Be aware though, don't order Legacy shafts for your draw length. Easton has shortened the length, and they're too short for me now.

Bernie Bjorklund

NC Iowa/SW Wisconsin

Yep I was sold on the 2018's and about to order them... then I noticed that they were just a tuck over 30".... that won't work for me.

Night Wing · May 09, 2012, 05:08:00 PM

I think the CEO of Easton is trying his best to get out of the aluminum arrow shafting business and he's going to succeed with his deliberate shorting of the shaft lengths from what is publicly stated on Easton's website. :(

Blaino · May 09, 2012, 07:14:00 PM

Night Wing - I remember reading something like that on here. I don't understand it. Easton pretty much has a monopoly on aluminum shafts. I know all metals are expensive but still....

Any other recommendations out there?

WESTBROOK · May 10, 2012, 08:40:00 AM

The spec sheet on their website says they are 32.5". Where did you see 30" stated.

Eric

sticksnstones · May 10, 2012, 09:21:00 AM

It doesn't help that each spine in each finish has a different "full length" measurement.

If you need a longer shaft, don't forget to look at bare xx78 shafts. There are less options for spine, but my 2117's come in at 33.25.
Thom

Blaino · May 10, 2012, 09:42:00 AM

Eric- If you look at 3 Rivers you'll see they are shorter when you select them on the drop down arrow for ordering.

Thom- Are the XX78 worth the extra cost?

bigbadjon · May 10, 2012, 09:49:00 AM

The last time I ordered Legacy shafting in 2018 the shafts I recieved uncut made finished arrows of 29 inches. I have been using vintage shafts for my aluminums and they make arrows over 32" if left uncut. Its a shame they are shorting them as aluminums are still the choice of price conscious accuracy fanatics. Luckily camo hunters still come in good length and variety for those who don't want to track down old stock.

**DONOTDELETE** · May 10, 2012, 10:17:00 AM

I'd highly recommend the XX78 super slam shafts they hold up better than the xx75. I hunted with them for 15 years. another shaft that would work well for your weight and 125 grain heads is a 2016. They'll come in right about 500 grains too. perfect for a 49 pound bow. IMO

Blaino · May 10, 2012, 10:21:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by Kirkll:
I'd highly recommend the XX78 super slam shafts they hold up better than the xx75. I hunted with them for 15 years. another shaft that would work well for your weight and 125 grain heads is a 2016. They'll come in right about 500 grains too. perfect for a 49 pound bow. IMO

even if i draw 30"?

sticksnstones · May 10, 2012, 10:25:00 AM

When I was only drawing 30" I used xx75 GG for range/3d and xx78 for hunting only. Now I need the extra 3 inches of length so I really don't have much choice about the cost. Buying a dozen wood shafts then paying $5 each to have them footed makes them even more expensive.

Kirk, got your PM. I've been looking at those 32.5" carbons and I'm planning on getting a few to test with shortly. If I set them up they will be field tips only for range shooting. I'd hate to back a big nasty broadhead into this pretty riser

Thom

WESTBROOK · May 10, 2012, 10:45:00 AM

Thanks Blaino, found it. The 2020 is still the same it appears. My 2018 are 33", but they are a couple years old. I usually cut them around 30.5-31".

Been thinking about goin back to Heritage 150's, this might make me do it.

Eric

sticksnstones · May 10, 2012, 11:39:00 AM

OK looks like the 2018 is now 30 3/8" and only available in xx75. Based on this, you can probably rule out new 2018s for your 30" draw.

The 2020 is also xx75 only, but ships at 32". Kirk mentioned 2016 which ships at 32" in xx75 and may work depending tip weight and shelf build.

My 2117s are 31 1/8" as a xx75, but 33 1/4" as a xx78.

I hope Easton doesn't mind but I took a screenshot from their 2012 catalog. I hope it helps people see what options and lengths are currently available.

I guess I better get serious about stockpiling arrow shafts before they get shortened up any more!
Thom

WESTBROOK · May 10, 2012, 12:09:00 PM

Blaino, the camo hunter comes in a 2115, almost identacle spine, just a little lighter.

Eric

SCATTERSHOT · May 10, 2012, 12:09:00 PM

Here's a spine chart that may help. Good luck!

http://web.archive.org/web/20071229024852/www.arrowsbykelly.com/Spine_Charts.html

Night Wing · May 10, 2012, 03:43:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by WESTBROOK:
Blaino, the camo hunter comes in a 2115, almost identacle spine, just a little lighter.

Eric

The 2115 Camo Hunter has been discontinued for many years now. I know it for a fact. I used to shoot it.

http://www.eastonarchery.com/arrows/alloy-xx75-camo-hunter/0/2

Blaino · May 10, 2012, 03:59:00 PM

I think it's ridiculous that "we" can't get the arrows we want. Does any other arrow company make hunting weight aluminum arrows?

Does anyone know if the 2016's will take swedging well? I really like the simplicity of just glueing on a nock and a point!

Night Wing · May 10, 2012, 05:50:00 PM

For decades I've shot Easton aluminum arrows when Doug Easton was running Easton. Right now, with the present CEO of Easton at the helm, I definitely wish some "other" company besides Easton manufactured aluminum shafting to make arrows. :rolleyes:

I can see discontinuing some arrow sizes that didn't sell well. But, cutting the lengths shorter from the stated sizes on Easton's website, that's unethical and cheats the end user, you and me. With my long draw of 30" and shooting 32" BOP arrows with light weight recurves poundage wise, it's getting very difficult to find aluminum shafting to make arrows I/we.....NEED.

Doug Easton must be rolling over in his grave to what's been done to the aluminum shafting side of his business which he created and ran for many decades.