Fred Eichler Phantom broadheads

[cjrecurve]

Anyone purchased the new design Phantom? I bought a 3 pack. The design looks good,however they are not "razor sharp" as advertised.Of the three only one main blade on one head would cut paper. While I am not adverse to sharpening broadheads, having to dismantle a new 4 blade to sharpen it shows a total lack of quality control at the factory. Hopefully my pack was the exception and not the rule.

[lpcjon2]

Is it marked on the box any place that they need to be sharpened. Some companies do that for safety reasons.

[C. Halstead]

I know the regular phantoms i used needed to have a date with the KME broadhead sharpener.

[Bill Carlsen]

It's a moot point to me. I think if you don't shoot your broadheads several times to make sure they fly well is a mistake. If you do that you have to sharpen them. Do you take your hunting arrows into the field without first shooting them?

[macksdad]

X2 Bill Carlsen,  I have never bought any muzzy phantom that i thought was sharp enough.

[COOCH]

X3

[Terry Lightle]

X4

[reddogge]

Used to be we had to sharpen EVERY broadhead we bought, just to make sure they were sharp. Perhaps you should be prepared to do the same. Why trust someone else to do one of the basic jobs in bowhunting?

[cjrecurve]

My post was more about a company not delivering what it advertises.After hunting with traditional equipment for 44 years I am quite confident in the hunting arrows I take into the field.

[arky714]

maybe they don't know sharp from shinola....  :cool:

[KSdan]

Agree CJ- company should keep its word.  Obviously you check them. Which I do to every time I spin test, then load the quiver, or even put an arrow on the string.

As far as shooting every arrow several times- NOPE!      I tried woods 20 years ago and found them just too inconsistent. Alums and now carbs bare shaft with high FOC tuned out to 30 yds shoot the same every time- of course I nor the deer can tell at 20 yds if one inch off is the shaft or shooter error.    

[wtpops]

Originally posted by Bill Carlsen:
It's a moot point to me. I think if you don't shoot your broadheads several times to make sure they fly well is a mistake. If you do that you have to sharpen them. Do you take your hunting arrows into the field without first shooting them?

I dont shoot each and every head I always keep 2 or 3 for practice and have the rest ready for hunting.

[wtpops]

Originally posted by cjrecurve:
My post was more about a company not delivering what it advertises.After hunting with traditional equipment for 44 years I am quite confident in the hunting arrows I take into the field.

I do agree with you, if i buy something that says they are a certain way and they are not then i have an issue.

Have you contacted the company, they may not no they have an issue and the one that makes those is usually top notch, they will most likely take care of you.

[Red Beastmaster]

I shoot every hunting arrow many times. There is always the chance one will be a flier.

[Smithhammer]

I would tend to agree. Had a similar experience with a pack of well-known broadheads that are advertised as "hunting sharp, right out of the package." They turned out to not even be remotely sharp, by any stretch of the imagination.

Of course you're still going to shoot them for practice/tuning before hunting with them. And of course you're still going to have to sharpen them up before actually hunting with it.

I don't mind sharpening at all, in fact I enjoy it. But it's simple - if it ain't true, don't put it on the package.

[BWD]

No matter what the package says, my broadheads aren't hunting sharp until I say they are hunting sharp. Even if they were, I'm gonna sharpen on them anyway. On exception being if Chris ( landshark160) handed them to me and said they were sharp...then I would only want to handle them by their adapters.

[Charlie Lamb]

I want to know how they are different than the old ones.

[Glunt]

They are 1/4" longer 150gr with a "tanto" tip.

[Ryan Sanpei]

Charlie,

Longer blade as stated above
1" wide bleeder
150 4blade 125 2blade
Tanto tip


This is the info straight from the Muzzy Website.

"The Fred Eichler Signature Series Phantom Broadhead is a 150 Grain 4 Blade or a 125 Grain 2 Blade with the bleeder blades removed. It features a 1 1/8" x 1" Cutting Diameter a longer blade design and a new Tonto Style tip for maximum penetration!"

[Ryan Sanpei]