Howard Hill shootout

swampthing · March 23, 2009, 10:18:00 AM

I have recently, dare I say, cronied my 66" 50@28 lb Wesley with 585g arrows. Mostly got 147fps @27" and 152fps @28." Should be fine for deer, hogs, black bear. Has anyone cronied any of the other Hill bows, Tembo, Big 5, Cheetah, etc...?
Ive heard it said that for each bamboo lam you can expect approximately 3 fps over the Tembo.
I really like the Cheetah but I don't want to slow down as I like the arc my arrows trace.
Maybe the wood, if it is thick enough to count as a lam, will keep the speed up.

swampthing · March 24, 2009, 06:33:00 AM

Guess not, think this set-up is too light for 2-300lb wild boar? I'm going friday.

Kevin L. · March 24, 2009, 07:26:00 AM

If your broadhead is nice and sharp and you can put it in the lungs, then your setup is perfect. I bet it's pretty quiet, too.

swampthing · March 24, 2009, 10:44:00 AM

Low tone "thud" is all I percieve from the bow. If I could only get rid of that feather "swack" it would be basically silent. Using those musk ox woolies on D97 string.

ishoot4thrills · March 24, 2009, 10:58:00 AM

Your speed sounds about right if not a little better than average for that draw weight and relatively heavy arrow. I think you should be fine.

Romans3 · March 24, 2009, 12:08:00 PM

my brother has a tembo he just shot through R. Blacky Schwartz's chrono last weekend. With a finger release he was getting about 157fps. It's a 53LBS at 28" but he pulls to about 29 or 29.5.
He just got it so hasn't shot at any game with it.

RC · March 24, 2009, 01:16:00 PM

I`ve killed quite a few hogs with Hill bows in your weight range. I shoot arrows between 600-650 grains and large broadheads. I`ve killed some big South Ga. pigs. Most people over weigh their hogs. A 300 pound swamp hogs is rare.RC

RC · March 24, 2009, 01:17:00 PM

Forgot to add I hunted mostly with a Wesly and a cheetah. The Cheetah "seemed" to shot harder. It has an extra lam of bamboo.RC

swampthing · March 24, 2009, 07:59:00 PM

Just got in from making sure the broadheads, 190g Grizzlys, shot with the points, bad idea... I took off half a feather. I'm starting to get some good confidence in my set-up.

pete Darby @ home · March 24, 2009, 09:59:00 PM

I cronoed my HH wesley special 55# @28 with a 550 grain sitka spruce arrow at 165

longbowray · March 24, 2009, 10:09:00 PM

HH told me 115 + bow weight ?

swampthing · March 25, 2009, 06:30:00 AM

115fps w/9gpi arrows yes. I shoot 12+

swampthing · March 25, 2009, 06:31:00 AM

I meant gpp, grains per pound.

wollelybugger · March 25, 2009, 06:46:00 AM

I am not saying My Hill longbow is slow but if I shoot short I run and grab the arrow in the air and throw it the rest of the way. I killed my first buck at six yards with it, it was fast enough that day.

swampthing · March 25, 2009, 10:37:00 AM

Thanks for the input. Just tried bending the bow arm elbow down, as apposed to out, and drawing my string elbow back in "snug," draw length was still the same but got cleaner arrow flight.
Used alaskas bowhunting supply's single bevel broadhead sharpener, then mod'd the 190's tip to coi tanto. Hopefully I can get inside the comfort zone of some hogs. Thanks again for the insight.

Greg Skinner · March 25, 2009, 04:05:00 PM

My Halfbreed is 50# @27 and the GT's I shoot weigh about 625 with the 190 Grizzly bh. It chrono's right around 145 fps. I just finished a Tembo blank with carbon backing and black glass that came out at 57# @27. It is noticeably faster and just seems to be "snappier" in shooting as opposed to a "softer" draw with the Halfbreed. It throws a 700 gr arrow about 150 fps. I have noticed with both Hills that I don't gain much in velocity by dropping arrow weight, nor do I lose much by bumping the weight up. They both seem to like to shoot 143-147 fps with a wide range of weights, so I usually opt for those on the heavier side in order to get the most efficiency from the bow.

swampthing · August 03, 2009, 02:51:00 PM

New 4-lam 55# 68" Redman throws a 530 tapered cedar with 160g blunt 170fps @28" draw with fingers.

Three Arrows · August 03, 2009, 05:07:00 PM

My 68 inch 5 lamination Redman 64lbs at 30 inches throws a 650 grain arrow around 170. Hits with a whallop too.

swampthing · October 05, 2010, 12:00:00 PM

66" W.Special, 1/2" backset, 55#@27, 500g woodies, 163fps @27" and 174fps @28" w/dacron. This one is swift.

swampthing · October 26, 2010, 07:56:00 PM

68" Big 5, 20 years old, backset limbs, 75# @28, 16-strand FF, 515g woodies, 185fps @27" draw.
68" Miller Old Tom, straight limbs, 65#@28, Dacron, 490g woodies, 169fps @27" draw.
525g woodies, 167fps.
Set up with 18-strand FF-string, 530g went 180fps w/28"draw. Eeked 185fps a few times with a maxed out 28.5" draw.
68" Miller Old Tom, same as above but @28"draw.
550g woodies, 178fps, Dacron.
750g Hickory, 159fps, Dacron.