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Will this penetrate a Turkey???

Started by Over&Under, March 06, 2008, 12:32:00 AM

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Over&Under

I was playing around with broadhead combo's for gobbler season, and thought this would give some much needed knockdown power. It works out to the correct weight (145 grns) and flys perfect, but then I got to wondering if this might prevent penetration, or prevent enough penetration to do the job.

Do you think the little "star" will grab the feathers too much??  Anyone ever try this??

BTW I am shooting a 58" Shrew, 53@28, with a 500 grn arrow.

Thanks

Jake

             
"Elk (add hogs to the list) are not hard to hit....they're just easy to miss"          :)
TGMM

Gehrke145

I wouldn't use it.  Id go with a bigger head then the firstcut.  I've never shot through a turkey with trad bow, and only 1 outa 6 with a compound.

j yenney

I don't think you'll have any problems. A turkey is not hard to kill. You might tear up a bit of meat thou>
j yenney

Stone Knife

A well placed big sharp broadhead is all that is needed, a turkey has built in amour with there wings feathers and the breast bone. You don't want to stop the broadhead from doing it's intended job.
Proverbs 12:27
The lazy do not roast any game,
but the diligent feed on the riches of the hunt.


John 14:6

bloodyarrow

I have taken turkeys with Magnus, Zwickey, Steelforce all pass through. Just keep em sharp and well placed
Hunting The Way of My Ancestors
(The Traditional Way)


Eddie

jeff / sc

I've never had a complete pass thru with trad bows from 45 -50 lbs using snuffers..I wouldn't use it.  I've never used a single blade BH for turks, although I'm considering WW this year.  With proper shot placement they will all do the job.

wingnut

Turkeys are real hard to shoot through.  I would not use the star and like others said shoot a big head.  It took mine with a 160 Snuffer last year.

Mike
Mike Westvang

Danny Roberts

Looks deadly to me. I've never talked to anyone around here that didn't have a pass through on a gobbler. Good luck !
DR

csbullseye

That small game head with a field point works fine on rabbits and squirrel. I wouldn't use it on turkey.

Over&Under

Thanks for the input guys.  I am not as concerned wih a pass-thru, in fact I would rather not, but I was really interested if this combo would cause me to not penetrate at all.

Does anyone else have some opinions
Thanks
Jake
"Elk (add hogs to the list) are not hard to hit....they're just easy to miss"          :)
TGMM

Arwin

I would have to say no with the star head. it seems like it may grab feathers on the way in and give really poor penetration. If you want the same concept to keep your arrow from zipping through too much,  try the spring arms that are on Judo tips. They sell them separately to go behind the broadhead and on the arrow. As the arrow passes through the arms will slide along the arrow and stop at or just before your fletching.. I think 3 Rivers sells them. Hope that helps.
Just one more step please!

Some dude with a stick and string chasing things.

Arwin

Just one more step please!

Some dude with a stick and string chasing things.

ishiwannabe

I have taken three turkey with a bow(back on the dark side). I only had passthrough on one, and I was shooting a 74# wheelie. Sharp, three blade broadheads were used on all three. One was a nice gobbler, the hit was a bit low. The arrow prevented him from flying off, or running, allowing another follow up. Another was a perfect "wing knuckle" shot...the one youare supposed to get on a bird based on many positions.
That arrow cut off it's wing, then skipped into the treetops, never to be seen again. The wing fell off, and the bird ran about forty yards, and bled out.
The third was a direct hit, complete pass through. That bird was literally dead on its feet. It ran for about 100 yards, and I couldnt find it....the blood just stopped. I even brought a buddy's bird dog out. Lost the trail at the edge of a swamp. I found that bird about a month later. It had crawled into a multi-flora rose bush and died. I still feel bad about losing that one.
Moral of the story, choose your shot carefully. I would also strongly recommend a string tracker to facilitate finding your quarry after the hit. Turkey do not leave a trail like deer...they can run, fly, and it takes a while for the blood to get through he feathers. Some prefer to wait for a "backside shot"...little high or low and it takes out the spine if it misses the vitals.
As for broadheads, I would use whatever you are most accurate with. Bigger is better, but accuracy is most important, especially with a vital zone so small. If you are worried about penetration with the adder, dont use it.
Either way, have fun, and shoot straight.
"I lost arrows and didnt even shoot at a rabbit" Charlie after the Island of Trees.
                        -Jamie

blaster

The only turkey I have shot with my bow was with a set up like that except the bow was a little heavier, 60#@28". I took a frontal shot that went into the chest and lodged in the lower back/pelvic region of the tom. I used a steel force head though. My shot was close, under 10 yards. I'd think you'd be fine.

Over&Under

Jamie

Great advice - sounds like you are way more experienced than me - even if it is with wheels...

I have only killed one Turkey, it was with a longbow, and a bear razorhead.  I hit high on a broadside shot, and spined the bird, dropping it where it stood.  So I do not have any experience with body hits.

I can't seem to think why this set up would not penetrate at least enough to get into the vitals, or do enough damage for a second shot and/or a chance to run and grab the bird.

Anyone else have experience using them.  With all the cons I am getting, I will most likely go with a different bh, but gosh it seems like a killer setup!

Jake
"Elk (add hogs to the list) are not hard to hit....they're just easy to miss"          :)
TGMM

Over&Under

QuoteOriginally posted by blaster:
The only turkey I have shot with my bow was with a set up like that except the bow was a little heavier, 60#@28". I took a frontal shot that went into the chest and lodged in the lower back/pelvic region of the tom. I used a steel force head though. My shot was close, under 10 yards. I'd think you'd be fine.
Blaster - you used a adder point behind a broadhaead and had good penetration?? a little more info please..

Jake
"Elk (add hogs to the list) are not hard to hit....they're just easy to miss"          :)
TGMM

ishiwannabe

Forgot to mention what heads I was using...
Thunderhead 125's. Im by no means experienced. I have only shot three in about 18 years of bowhunting....just passing on first hand info. Good luck!
"I lost arrows and didnt even shoot at a rabbit" Charlie after the Island of Trees.
                        -Jamie

bayoulongbowman

Id shoot a Snuffer or WW on turkeys! good luck!more cutting ratio
"If you're living your life as if there is no GOD, you had  better be right!"

blaster

Over&under,

I used a Great Northern Ghost recurve pulling 60#@27" (my draw) or 63#@28" (marked weight). I was shooting an Easton Legacy 2020 @ 28". It was a 4 blade Steel Force head with the adder behind it. The bird was called into the decoys and shot out of a blind at about 10 yards while in full strut. It was more than quartering to me but not quite straight. I hit it just to the side of the beard and the arrow penetrated until it lodged in bone, pelvic bone maybe? The arrow got about 16" of penetration I would guess. The bird turned and ran about 50 yards before tipping over. It was an eastern bird and shot in WI. Weighed about 21# if I remember right.

If the arrows fly good and straight I would not hesitate to use that set up. Hope this info helps.

Shawn Leonard

You do not want that star thingy on the head and the BH is a bit small. Birds are hard to get a pass thru on, I woul duse a big old wide head. i like snuffers! Shawn
Shawn


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