I'm thinking about going with some Grizzly Stiks and Ashby single bevel heads for elk this coming year. I shoot a 60" 58#@28" Silvertip recurve bow and normally shoot tapered cedars 30" bop with Zwickey Eskimos. My question is how do I get the right combo, arrows,inserts and heads? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Brent

WYO, you have a good set up right now, but I'm partial to wood arrows. Good luck.  

I dunno, I tried Grizzly Stiks a long time ago and they didn't fly at all like I expected.   Admittedly, I didn't give them a chance...knew little about carbons, etc.   But, a couple of years ago I tried Carbon expresses and more recently FMJs and both worked very well....but I was also more commited to figuring them out.  Like you, I had years of real good results with compressed or tapered cedars and Zwickies or Magnuses.   Why change?  I don't know but I'm now pretty convinced the Ashby formula is a better way to go.  Only have a couple of animals to judge it by, but - so far, so good.  Am now trying ways to make my old beloved wood shafts have more of these characteristics.  

In general, I like ABS and the things they choose to sell. Like the old Paul Brunner catalog, it is always an interesting and appealing read.  The Grizzly Stik makes sense in a couple of ways, but I bit on it once and wonder why some folks had a better experience with them than I did.

I used them to kill my bull 2 years ago.  It took me a while to tune 'em and the spine issue is another variable to work out.  However, when tuned, they are extremely good flyers and a forgiving shaft.  I shoot a 58# r/d longbow and used Alaskans with a samuri head.  On that bull I got "to the fletching" penetration on a slight quartering away shot on a mature bull. I was a little disappointed the broadhead sustained some tip and edge damage breaking rib and hitting scapula offside.  I mean they market those broadheads as the second coming.    

Overall, the setup performed but my problem was the cost of the arrow.  All told, it was like $45-50 bucks per arrow.  I just couldn't stomach busting arrows at that price.  (The bull broke the shaft as they often due running away, and the broadhead tip broke) I shot my bull last year with a Gold tip and an Abowyer and had just as good of performance.   My two cents.  
PS  If you go with Grizzly sticks, make sure you get the spine oriented correctly. Do a search... that makes all the difference in thier flight.

Can you say, GT Trads 7595s and some German Kinetics or Grizzlys? Those arrows are a ripoff and are hard to tune.....the super slick finish wears off and their customer service is lacking. Save your money.

I had some bad luck with some Alaskans a few years ago, they were a PITA to tune, and I thought they were exhorbitantly slow. I have some 500 Banshee's now that I like a lot(can't seem to find any more of them, though).

Jeff i have a set of mismarked 500s ( say 600 on em) for 50$. I think I have 10-11.....but I gotta check. Cut to 29.25, wraps and inserts installed. I can't figure these things out....

I have had a very hard time trying to tune the 'ALASKAN'S" for a 68# recurve, i thought it was just me,but, i would appreciate any other information on others having trouble.

I shoot wood only and spent a month tuneing Grizzly Stix and developed a better understanding of why I'm a wood only guy.

I tried the Grizzly sticks,but it was for a very short time. I will stick with Gold tips.

I bought a set of Alaskan for my 60-65# but they looked to be too weak and the spine consistency not so good.I rather us CX Eritage an overall better arrow for me.

Hello Brent.  For your set up you will need the Alaskan shaft.  This shaft has a deflection .330. I shoot a similar setup out of my recurve and shoot a bullet hole thru paper tests. I can alternate between 180 gr to 300 gr head with no visible effect to my arrow.  I also shoot an enlarge homemade Blazer feather I burn on my shaft. It's 3.5 inches long with a about 3/4" profile which I can send you a pic if you like. IMO most guys are shooting too big a fletching on Griz Sticks.  i alos shoot the widest fix head money can buy. This arrow has very little paradox so a lot of feather crashing into the side plate creates tuning problems for those who don't understand the paradox of a reverse tapered carbon. If you have any tuning problems , drop me a PM on here or thru ABS sight... Good luck

I tried them, went in whole hog and bought 2 dozen of the arrows they recommended for my setup. Nothing but junk. They ended up sending me an arrow that was two sizes stiffer than they recommended. There are alot of arrows out there that are better.


  Thanks RJP

Thanks for all your input guys. Sounds like unless I have some extra cash laying around and a desire to fine tune some arrows I should just stick with my woodys.
Thanks again.
Brent

I also shoot both wood and grizzleystiks or hammerheads. I did not have any of the problems tuning, in fact I found that they were very forgiving. I did have a couple that were not perfectly straight, but grouped touching at 20 yards. My problem with them was the price, I'm not rich.

Those ABS sticks are overpriced and overrated in my opinion, so save your money. Sometimes, the most expensive is not always the best.

Well, maybe they are not overrated around here since the majority seem to have had less than pleasant experiences with them.

If you want to shoot a tapered, front weighted shaft, try the AD Trads or Hammerheads.  I have been shooting AD's for some time and they tune easily and shoot really well across a number of point weights.  Price is a bit better also....