Wouldn't own a Dass or anything else sold exclusively by one company. Would most surely buy an ILF set up because of the huge amount of choices in risers and limbs creating an almost inexhaustable number of combinations and costs. Frank

B/W lvr, don't want to pop your bubble but the das riser can be purchased separately and shot with any of the ilf limbs of your choice. Following your logic you would not buy a Morrison, Tradtech, Dryad or Border ILF riser. You would be limiting yourself from some high quality items only buying risers not sold exclusively.

I wouldn't presume to tell you which bow to buy - or which one not to buy. All I know is that metal riser bows aren't personally my cup of tea, no matter how well they may shoot. But that's just me. If the Daala works for you then it's your decision regardless of what anyone says.

I had a Dalaa and sold it for a Fedora. Better grip is what mostly sold me; easier to get consistency.  Dalaa was not a bad bow; I killed deer with it, the Fedora is just clearly a better bow.

QuoteOriginally posted by Dave Earley:
I had a Dalaa and sold it for a Fedora. Better grip is what mostly sold me; easier to get consistency.  Dalaa was not a bad bow; I killed deer with it, the Fedora is just clearly a better bow.

Your opinion and not a fact... for instance, my Fedora did not fit me.

The Dalaa was more of a training and tuning experience for me. They are nice bows, yet with all three grips was never satisfied nor comfortable. Note: While I was never comfortable, the bow perfomed well and I actually shot quite well with it. Possibly, I am just not a metal riser guy, however I did not care for needing to add limb savers and double silencers on each end.

One of the grip choices may be perfect for you.
As far as metal riser bows go, the Hoyt Buffalo, for me, is noticeably more comfortable even though I have only shot one on two occassions.

QuoteOriginally posted by B/W lvr:
Wouldn't own a Dass or anything else sold exclusively by one company. Would most surely buy an ILF set up because of the huge amount of choices in risers and limbs creating an almost inexhaustable number of combinations and costs. Frank

I agree with you Frank.  That's why I like the ILF connection.  The only way to shoot limbs other than the ones that come with the Dalaa is to modify them.  Not so with any of the ILF risers.

Modification is a change of bushings and takes less the 5 minutes. And gives me what I feel for me is a superior attachment system. Takes the same time to change them back if desired.

Ok....now that you guys talked me into buying one....how do you quieten it down. Noisiest bow I have! I have two sets of rubber string silencers on it now, brace height is right, tiller is 1/8. 650 grain arrows.

Hey Biggie, This is what it took to make mine quiet.

I twisted a new TS1 String (12 str padded), Wool string balls, string grove pads, then played with the tiller till it got real quiet. For me it shot the quiest at even tiller... Playing with the tiller really helped for me...

Mark.........

1/8 to 1/4 tiller for split.
Many are even for 3 under.
For the 21" riser, I've seen BH from 7 1/2 to 8 1/2.

If you like to fiddle and adjust things, I guess that bow would be the ticket.

Biggie , That was one of the same things I noticed.Different from my Long bows. I put a set of wheel bow style limb silencers to try to quite it down. Randy

Put a set of string silencers on it and a set of Sims vibration silencers on the limbs at the end of the fades get the brace set and it'll be quiet.

Biggie- Joey just called and said you have to return the Swamp Rooter now!

QuoteOriginally posted by Bonebuster:
If you like to fiddle and adjust things, I guess that bow would be the ticket.

No more "fiddling" and adjustment then any other bow. Just easier to custimize it perfectly - then never adjust again. Most bows if tiller is not quite right for someone, they are SOL without sandpaper and refinishing. Thats fiddling and adusting  

Mark, I was gonna try the tiller adjustment. Now I WILL FOR SURE, tHANKS.

Stoneknife...the sims dampers sound like a good idea too.

Marty...the Swamprooter is retired. It has done it's duty honorably. Jerry's here, tell your sister it was good to see her again and come on up.

I meant nothing by it.

So what makes these bows so hard to  quiet down?  Is it the Dalaa limbs?  Is this the case with all the recurve limbs on this riser?  I shot a 17" Dalaa riser with the ACS ILF limbs and no silencers at all.  I found it quieter than most recurves I have had after I quieted them down, so I assume this is a recurve limb issue.

I shoot one set of limbs at a 7" brace height and the other set at 7 1/2". Tiller is 1/8" and I shoot split finger. Bow hushes on the ends of the strings with one string leech on each side. That makes it as quiet or quieter than any other bow I've shot.