I am just curious as to how you all feel about these composite bows that seem to be more and more popular these days.  I am not sure what is going on; we all claim to be traditional enthusiasts but still have a desire to look for the latest and greatest in new age materials.  What ever happened to the old stick and string mentality?  Everytime I see a new high speed 'traditional bow' I want to go make an osage orange self bow, get some multifloral rose arrows, tie on some turkey feathers from a bird that I harvested, make an obsidian head and go into the woods.  Maybe its just me but as far as I am concerned you might as well grab a compound and take the sights off.

    :rolleyes:        :rolleyes:

Getting a definition of what is or isn't traditional is a hard thing to do these days. But in defense of the the modern ILF LB or Recurve there is nothing about them that aids the archer over a wood bow. You shoot them the same way, use the same technique, form. You are limited in the same way. And more than likely you probably shoot the same. For me there is not difference in shooting my BW PSR and my Morrison metal ILF with Ilf recurve limbs or shooting my Hill Halfbreed and my Sky ILf longbow. It's too the point that I feel comfortable shooting any of them and would hunt with either.
I had someone comment to me that my ILF rig wasn't traditional, I laughed becuase he was using a takedown recurve, so whats the difference between and ILF bushing vs a limb bolt.
The real issue is not the equipment we use, it's how well we use them. Don't forget that or we will lose the ability and the privilege to hunt. I bet the anti hunters would love for us to all return to true primitive gear. In this way, less animals killed, more wounded and then they win. I'm not against primitive gear but I know that most of us would be very handicapped. Maybe that's our future, but for right now I'm going to shoot the best with the equipment that works with me the best.

QuoteOriginally posted by LongStick64:
Getting a definition of what is or isn't traditional is a hard thing to do these days. But in defense of the the modern ILF LB or Recurve there is nothing about them that aids the archer over a wood bow. You shoot them the same way, use the same technique, form. You are limited in the same way. And more than likely you probably shoot the same. For me there is not difference in shooting my BW PSR and my Morrison metal ILF with Ilf recurve limbs or shooting my Hill Halfbreed and my Sky ILf longbow. It's too the point that I feel comfortable shooting any of them and would hunt with either.
I had someone comment to me that my ILF rig wasn't traditional, I laughed becuase he was using a takedown recurve, so whats the difference between and ILF bushing vs a limb bolt.
The real issue is not the equipment we use, it's how well we use them. Don't forget that or we will lose the ability and the privilege to hunt. I bet the anti hunters would love for us to all return to true primitive gear. In this way, less animals killed, more wounded and then they win. I'm not against primitive gear but I know that most of us would be very handicapped. Maybe that's our future, but for right now I'm going to shoot the best with the equipment that works with me the best.

I agree 100%

The way I look at it is that both are equally difficult to become efficent with.  If I am able to shoot a newer/faster longbow with less poundage compared to a self-bow with higher poundage I know that I will be more effective with the lighter poundage because I know I can handle the lighter poundage easier.  Yes I could just shoot a lighter slower bow (and i have some slow bows) but I have too much respect for the game I go after.

I'm an archer. I'm a bowhunter. I'm not a reenactor.

QuoteWhat ever happened to the old stick and string mentality?  

What year was that?

..I'm primitive ..I'll keep to wood and stone ! The rest is for you guys ! Just have fun with whatever you use..and teach our young !!!

I'm apparently not as "traditional" as you nor as talented as you sir.  Regardless, elitism does not appeal to me.

QuoteOriginally posted by rastaman:
I'm apparently not as "traditional" as you nor as talented as you sir.  Regardless, elitism does not appeal to me.

+1   :rolleyes:

QuoteOriginally posted by getstonedprimitivebowhunt:
Just have fun with whatever you use..and teach our young !!!

Best way to say it.  

What is with this all of a sudden.  everyone feeling that they need to attack what everyone else chooses to hunt with.  No one is telling you that you have to use what they do.  Grab a compound with the sights who cares, just enjoy how YOU hunt.

I used to shoot the compounds without sights, barebow class.  I have won tons of tournaments that way.  I dropped the wheels and went strictly 1pc longbow because I like it, not to be a part of some elite group.  I like this forum, not because I am better than wheel bow guys, but because I can learn from and meet other folks with simular interests.  

Wheel bows are where I started, honestly, that is where most started.  There are a few who have never shot a compound, but they are few.  I do not shoot or hunt with a compound, but if trad was banned, i would have wheels the next day and continue hunting.

I think it is wrong to draw the line in the sand as to what's acceptable to be called traditional. I shoot an A&H 3 piece longbow but plan to switch to my MOAB longbow. I have a self bow that I'll also shoot at some point. All of these bows are traditional. I personally don't care what you shoot, be it a self bow or a compound, just do what you enjoy most. The only time I think it matters is when competing at a shoot. The winners should be determined by ability not equipment.

I do have higher regard for the hunter who takes game with a self bow while ground hunting over the hunter taking game over bait, from a tree stand with a high tech bow.  Both methods are acceptable but I think one is more difficult.

One thing I do find interesting is how some people chase technology instead of putting in the effort required to become a more proficient hunter and archer.

I do not have a need to define who is 'traditional' and who is not or place value judgement upon them. The composite bow is well over a thousand years old. Besides, I didn't ride a mule to get into the woods so I guess whatever I do just ain't trad. oh well.

I am a funny fool, I even respect compound shooters.

Obsidian point????? Not a very "Traditional" material in Pennsylvania. Stick with flint and chert or the "Real" traditionalists will toss you out of there inner circle.  

                       

QuoteOriginally posted by whitetail_downer100:
I am just curious as to how you all feel about these composite bows that seem to be more and more popular these days.  I am not sure what is going on; we all claim to be traditional enthusiasts but still have a desire to look for the latest and greatest in new age materials.  What ever happened to the old stick and string mentality?  Everytime I see a new high speed 'traditional bow' I want to go make an osage orange self bow, get some multifloral rose arrows, tie on some turkey feathers from a bird that I harvested, make an obsidian head and go into the woods.  Maybe its just me but as far as I am concerned you might as well grab a compound and take the sights off.

OMG, here we go again!    :rolleyes:        

I see the "more traditional than thou" people are still around.

Man, this form of posting sure gets old.

QuoteOriginally posted by Jason R. Wesbrock:
I'm an archer. I'm a bowhunter. I'm not a reenactor.

Well said, Jason.

yes it does, hope it don't rain, someone will get water in their nose because it's up to high

I admit I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to build my own bow, points, arrows, string everything.

Sounds romantic as heck.

I just don't want to put in the time really.
I have other things in my life that I'd rather spend time doing.