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Brand new to Woodsmen Broadheads

Started by Friends call me Pac, August 19, 2010, 04:24:00 PM

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Bill Turner

I have had great success using the Charlie Lamb method of sharpening WW heads. His video is in the archives here on TG. Once sharp, the WW heads are the easiest head to touch up that I have ever used. Are the Woodsman Elites as good as the originals?

mrjsl

I haven't had any of these in hand, but I can sharpen about any knife wicked sharp with benchstones. Why wouldn't you just get a big DMT diasharp plate, lay broadhead on it and push the point away sharpening 2 edges at a time. Is the angle you get from that too steep? The woodsman seems like it would be simple to sharpen.

With knives I have 20 or 30 stones of various types, but I 99% of the time I use a large coarse diasharp plate, and the largest DMT duosharp in fine/extra fine followed by a strop. It's possible to get a knife sharper than I get mine, but unnecessary unless you want to whittle spiderwebs.

Onions

Terry, Good thoughts on the jewelstik. Unfortunately I sold my jewelstik, so I can not try

chirs <><

Doug in MN

Had the same experience with the older WW heads, takes a bit of work to get the initial angle trued up. The new ones are not an issue at all.

I finish them up across a jewel stick as well, and as mentioned above they be sharp.
They will never have that Oh my God don't touch it sharp feel that you can get on a 2 blade head. It is a function of the edge angle or so I believe.

They are hunting sharp they just have different feel to the edge. The best part is they zip through deer, leave great blood trails (you can slip in it kind of a blood trail) and those blood trails are not long.

azhunter

Where can I purchase the 3 sided jewelstick?

Friends call me Pac

I'm on day #6 with the same head.  I have read and watched everything I can find to sharpen these heads but no luck getting them sharp at all.  They do make good backscratchers though. No fear of cutting myself while scratching.

I just don't understand how I can sharpen a 2 blade with a file or stone and get them so sharp and I can't get these sharp enough to even think about using them for hunting.  

I do want to thank everyone that has tried to help.  I haven't given up yet.  I'm going to go buy another file in a few minutes and see if that helps any at all.

I really want to use these heads.
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caleb7mm

im right there with pac, I cant get them to cut butter!! but they fly better than anything ive ever used. I dont get it.

what was the point of selling a dull BH in the first place????
Hoyt Dorado 45&50lb

Friends call me Pac

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Eugene Slagle

Yeah, I use a 12" Nicholson mill file & just push point forward - rotate - point forward -  rotate - point forawrd till I get all my bevels the same, then I use a 8K stone the same way to smooth out that edge then lastly I'll use a old leather belt too to strop them.
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olddogrib

As has been pointed out, you are limited on the angle a 3-blade head can be sharpened.  If I remember my geometry, the sum of the angles of an equilateral triangle(what a 3 blade is) is 180 degrees, or 60 degrees each.  The actual double bevel blades would bisect these angles, giving you the potential to sharpen to 30 degrees at best. For those familiar with Lansky & KME sharpening systems, you'll know 30 degrees is a coarse edge option (not very acute).  2 blade heads can be sharpened at 20 degrees or less depending on the size of the ferrule and that edge will feel sharper although will not be as durable due to the "thinner" edge. The WW will work fine, just hope this helps explain the difference in "feel".
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dragonheart

dull files are like dull knives, they just do not work.  Files do wear out.

Glad to see your efforts are becoming more fruitful towards sharpness!

Take care.
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Bill Turner

Once sharp I found the WW head to be easy to touch up in the field with a small, fine tooth file and very light pressure. Well worth the effort. A very good 3 blade head.

caleb7mm

all right pac, im going to lowes tomorrow at lunch to get a new file. we will see how it turns out tomorrow night.
Hoyt Dorado 45&50lb

Friends call me Pac

Caleb I sent you a pm.  Just a little while ago I took another (3rd) head out of the package and did my routine.  I took note of the time when I did the 1st stroke and had it cutting hair in 14 minutes.  Still not as sharp as I have got the otehrs but I'm sure it will be in just a few more minutes.

14 minutes Wow!  Compared to 6 days of trying I'm happy.
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buckster

PAC,

Post a video of your prowess, I am somewhat challenged in getting my WW & Snuffers sharp too.  Great thread!

Regards,

Barry
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