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kinetic energy

Started by PAPA BEAR, August 06, 2010, 01:27:00 PM

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PAPA BEAR

can someone please tell me what the formula is to figure out my kinetic energy please...i'm shooting a 650gr arrow at 61pounds at 190 fps...i keep coming up with 51 pounds.that sounds wrong for that heavy of an arrow doing 190...thanks  :banghead:
IT'S NEVER WRONG TO DO WHATS RIGHT AND NEVER RIGHT TO DO WHATS WRONG.....LOU HOLTZ

lpcjon2

I thought trad would be simpler...LOL Can you google Kinetic energy it should give you the formula
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PAPA BEAR

IT'S NEVER WRONG TO DO WHATS RIGHT AND NEVER RIGHT TO DO WHATS WRONG.....LOU HOLTZ

lpcjon2

This is what I found.

The kinetic energy of an object of mass m traveling at a speed v is mv2/2, provided v is much less than the speed of light.

you can use this link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy#Calculations
Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they have ever made a
difference in the world, but the Marines don't have that problem.
—President Ronald Reagan

Running Buck

Speed times Speed times weight divided by 450,240. This will give you the kinetic energy of the arrow at the distance you measured the speed at. Most shoot at three or four feet away from the chronograph.

Ricker


wingnut

52.1 and .548 momentum

Pretty dang good for a stickbow.

Mike
Mike Westvang

khardrunner

I'm not sure why you would want to calculate KE. Maybe like me you are a nerd :-) . Either way, the more important calculation when considering how much damage an arrow will do is momentum. Good luck and I hope you find what you are looking for!
I Corinthians 9 24-25
...run in such a way so as to obtain the prize!

PAPA BEAR

i was just curious to know thats all.i knew that gr arrow and speed would be good elk medicine.
IT'S NEVER WRONG TO DO WHATS RIGHT AND NEVER RIGHT TO DO WHATS WRONG.....LOU HOLTZ

PAPA BEAR

IT'S NEVER WRONG TO DO WHATS RIGHT AND NEVER RIGHT TO DO WHATS WRONG.....LOU HOLTZ

Don Batten

So Help out a poor dumb country boy, which is better, faster or heavier? I know the pingpong ball and golf ball in  the snow deal. I'm asking, when does a faster lighter arrow, out perform a heavier slower arrow? There's got to be a point where lighter is better. Just curious. Don
"The older I get, the better I was" Byron Fergenson.

PAPA BEAR

i think the heavier arrow will always be better unless you're shooting a very slow bow maybe.not sure about that one though,maybe someone will chime in.
IT'S NEVER WRONG TO DO WHATS RIGHT AND NEVER RIGHT TO DO WHATS WRONG.....LOU HOLTZ

wingnut

It's a balancing act.  You always want enough broadhead and arrow to get an exit wound on your animal.  For me that is usually about 10-11 gpp and a top end BH.

Going Moose hunting in a month and we are shooting 720 gr arrows with Abowyer Brown Bears.  I'm restricted to no more then 50# so my bow is 52 @ 30.5.

Mike
Mike Westvang

acadian archer

44# Chek mate Hunter II

"shoot what you like, like what you shoot"

onewhohasfun

If you double the weight of your arrow, you lose only one half of your velocity. So in answer to Dons  statement that " at some point lighter is better", Lighter will never have more momentum. I think 650gr. arrow going 190fps will shoot thru 2 elk.
Tom

PAPA BEAR

yep it sure will.gonna have my hardened snuffers guidin the way.
IT'S NEVER WRONG TO DO WHATS RIGHT AND NEVER RIGHT TO DO WHATS WRONG.....LOU HOLTZ

ChuckC

Mike. .  no MORE than 50 # ?   Hmmmm  well it is probably 50 # at 29"   there ya go !
ChuckC

screamin

I've have heard from a reputable source, that in order for a 650 gr arrow or above to be the most effective. It has got to be going at least 155fps. Never tried it personally, but I do trust the source.

wasapt

to calculate kinetic energy... take your arrow speed in fps, squared..
210 fps x 210 = 44,100
divide by 450,240 ( a constant ) 44,100/450,240 = .09794
then multiply .097794 x arrow weight 515 = 50.44 KE

Ashby's formula for momentum is written in TBM April/May 2007. On page 50, he states an arrow must meet or exceed the threshold of 14.8 pd-feet/sec of momentum . He has a chart of arrow weight and the correllating speed in fps to have the necessary momentum.
550gr @ 189 fps, 600gr @ 173 fps, 650gr @ 160 fps. Hope that helps
bryce olson

acadian archer

download the easton shaft selector program 9too stiff in my experience) but it does have a KE calculator
44# Chek mate Hunter II

"shoot what you like, like what you shoot"


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