Who is the greatest

wollelybugger · July 08, 2010, 09:13:00 AM

The IBO worlds is coming uup and every year I always wonder if the archers of the past, Hill, Pearson, Wilhelm brothers, to name a few could compete against the new top archers of today. If you could bring them all back for a week and give them the new bows with FF strings and carbon arrows who do you think would be the greatest of them all. :confused:

rabbit_buster · July 08, 2010, 10:14:00 AM

Ken Wilhelm I feel could not only compete with the archers of today but dominate, especially in a 3-d situation and with todays bows and carbon arrows. you have to look at the shots the man was cabable of making with wood arrows and solid wood bows..... same goes for all the others mentioned as well, but im kinda partial to the Wilhelm bros....

Van/TX · July 08, 2010, 10:41:00 AM

They would probably do better using the equipment they were familiar with :D ...Van

rabbit_buster · July 08, 2010, 11:05:00 AM

just give em' a couple days to get used to the new stuff and see what would happen......

Biggie Hoffman · July 08, 2010, 11:10:00 AM

What's the IBO Worlds?????????

BUFF · July 08, 2010, 11:12:00 AM

They would not be likely to be any better than the best of today. The folks at the top don't miss often. There is not alot of room to be much better.

**DONOTDELETE** · July 08, 2010, 11:13:00 AM

I would think Howard Hill would walk away with it. Then I would bet on a tie Fred Bear & Ben pearson.

Hud · July 08, 2010, 12:03:00 PM

Howard Hill in his prime.

July 08, 2010, 12:15:00 PM

I think they would get off track talking about old times and then start messing with each other by shooting the heads off dandelions and passing bumble bees and get disqualified.

owlbait · July 08, 2010, 01:23:00 PM

I think Preston, John, and Don would smack talk them down to their level! I'm guessing HH would be right there at any point in history.

3arrows · July 08, 2010, 01:24:00 PM

Who has won the most,without ever losing one?

Danny Rowan · July 08, 2010, 01:41:00 PM

Howard Hill won 194 field tournements straight but quit competing as he wanted to be a hunter, not a tourney archer.

bornagainbowhunter · July 08, 2010, 01:42:00 PM

God is the Greatest. As far as archery goes, I think they would be equal to the best today. They were just the best at the time and started the ball rolling with archery. Innovators. No better, no worse than any of the best today, just earlier.

Northwest_Bowhunter · July 08, 2010, 01:44:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Biggie Hoffman:
What's the IBO Worlds?????????

I am glad you asked Biggie, now if someone would just answer.

wapiti792 · July 08, 2010, 02:21:00 PM

Here ya go: IBO Trad Worlds

http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=94;t=001566

http://www.ibo.net/newsDetail.php?n=40

Biggie Hoffman · July 08, 2010, 03:00:00 PM

Ohhhhhhhhh...no wonder I never heard of it.

Hit-or-Miss · July 08, 2010, 03:22:00 PM

Not to start a debate, but IMHO... In viewing the old films from the 50's on DVD (Hill and Bear), although Hill was a great shot on the range, the best ever in fact, I would say that Fred Bear was a better hunter. His films show what appears to be honest shots, both hits and misses, at wild game in fair chase situations. In Hill's films, there appears to be wires or snares holding game still for the shot. I have watched them in slow motion, and several of the animals where tied by the leg to a wire, you can see it moving across the grass. And I read an account in a vintage archery mag about Tembo the Elephant being shot in the leg with a rifle, essentialy hobbling him so Hill could get close enough to shoot him with an arrow. I wish that I had never bought the Hill films. Hill was one hell of a shot, but Fred Bear is THE #1 MAN in my book!

*1926/Art Young in Alaska; much more primitive film equip. than Hill had in 1950 Africa, but no snares or hobbeled animals, just pure hunting and archery skill!

cahaba · July 08, 2010, 03:29:00 PM

Archery is a learned sport but great archers IMO have a a gift or genetics that make them a cut above. Whether he would win or not my vote goes to Mr. Howard Hill.

Brian Krebs · July 08, 2010, 03:41:00 PM

Hit-or-miss
Please don't judge Hill from the realities of film making when he made 'Tembo'. In those days you had to carry an 150 pound camera and a tripod; and your camera settings were determined by the use of a light meter- you went over to where you were taking the picture of something; and got the light reading; then went back and set your shutter speed and openings.

It is nothing like the cameras that came out later that were easy to carry and forgiving of lots of light conditions.

To shoot a movie of an elephant hunt; you would have had to sneak up to the elephant and take your light meter reading; then sneak back to film Hill shooting.

Hill was showing what an arrow could do- even to an elephant; and was not able to do that any other way than he did.

Fred Bear was a great man; and well loved by a lot of people including me.

I think though Wilhelm would be the one that would show us a thing or two: and go back laughing.

Earl Jeff · July 08, 2010, 07:12:00 PM

God is the Greatest