i shoot a 55# fred bear grizzly,i'm shooting easton xx75 gamegetter 400s with a 125gr cut to 27 inches. when im shooting at 20 yards im fine but when i go out past that i cant hit the brad side of a barn.if anyone has any suggestions i would love to hear them.
thanks cody

sounds like your arrows are two stiff put more weight on the front

If you are hitting tight groups at 20 yards it doesn't sound like your arrows.  What method of aiming are you using?

Yep.  If your arrows are flying fine at 20, they're not going to do something else beyond that.  Maybe your expectations are a bit high. Distance does magnify form errors, and poor shots usually beget more poor shots. Just take your time and really concentrate on form on longer shots. But keep in mind that despite some of the braggadocio that you read here occasionally, few people can shoot good groups much beyond 20 yards, unless they gap or use sights.  Good luck.  

i shoot gap style.

like yesterday i was shooting at thirty yards if i had 6 out 12 arrows hit the target i was doing good.

under 20 yards i can hit pretty good instively but out past that i have to use gap to get close

mudd is leting me borrow his masters of the barebow so maybe that might help my shooting out a lot.

I have same problem at 20 yards I'm okay but add a few more to it and things start to fall apart,so I am happy at 20 and will leave it there.Its amazing how a couple of yards make such a big difference isn't it?

As Orion said, longer distance magnifies errors. Concentration on good form and follow-though is an important key to long shots. Or, just keep 'em close  

Shoot instinctively or don't shoot one style up to 20yrds and then another past that.

shoot under 20 yds on an animal. sounds like form to me. good luck

Probably not ur arrows. Do you have a point on range? Mine is 20yds and I have to put my point about a foot over the target at 30yds. I to am good at 20yds but not as good at 30yds I practise my form religously but I cant consentrate on a spot that aint there. I hung a small peice of paper on my backstop above the kill so I could pick out a spot for my arrow tip to settle in my secondary vision.((( It helped me consentrate more and shoot better))). But I still stare at the spot I want to hit. I think the further I move back the less consentration I have.

PS: Deer dont have a small white spots a foot above there kill but I can imagine one. FORM IS EVERTHING

It might be just concentration.  The further the distance the more difficult it becomes to concentrate on a spot to hit.  Try making an extra effort to focus on the longer targets or put a 1" bright dot to draw your focus in.

practice practice practice ...form is everything.          

20 yards is a distance that is fairly easy to be accurate at. Stretch it out to 25 and beyond and the difficulty increases dramaticaly.
Took me a few years to be as accurate at 30 as I am at 20 yards.
I still need to shoot a lot to be on at 30 plus yards and somedays it still doesn't happen no matter what.
As said above practice, concentrate and work on form.

John

I think it might be your arrows.  If your arrows are cut to 27" I can assume that your actual draw length is 26" or less.  I can assume that you are actually only pulling around 52lbs or less.  Anyways, 400's are way too stiff according to stu miller's dynamic spine calculator.  I think they are equivalent to 2117's .  You should try the gamegetter 500's which are equivalent to 2016's , try 28" with a 125.

would a 150gr point help or hurt me?

It's not the arrows, though you are likely overspined.

I can group well with horrible over/underspined arrows, as long as the arrows are all the same.  

That's a point many people seem to miss.  It's also the basis for the planing/bareshaft method of tuning.

have you bareshafted your arrows if not,cut the feathers off 2 arrows and see where they hit in relation to the rest of your group..report back and someone will tell you what to do next...simple an't it...