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need advice on arrow tuning

Started by daniel reynolds, May 10, 2010, 10:41:00 PM

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daniel reynolds

Just would like to learn how everyone else does it.I'm wondering if my setup is right.I need all the input I can get on this topic.
Obama,what a joke!

Paul Mattson

What is your set-up. Type of bow, wt, draw length, arrows?

daniel reynolds

Blackcreek Banshee 47@27 , gt 3555,29 in,with 150 gr tips my arrows weigh 430 grains
Obama,what a joke!

eric-thor

how do the arrows fly with blades?this is how you know if they r right. that is as long as you have good form and release,consistant draw .otherwise you may be chaseing your tail.
form is everything! shoot well shoot hard.

eric-thor

form is everything! shoot well shoot hard.

Cherokee Scout

Daniel, if you get down this way, I will help you tune it.
John

Tall Paul

I would buy "Masters of the Barebow", volume 1 and 2.  You'll save yourself a lot of time and headache, and learn everything there is to know about it.
Is a life of rice cakes really life, or just passing time?-Rick Bragg

daniel reynolds

John do you think my arrows are too short? And what is the right way to measure an arrow like from what to what?
Obama,what a joke!

Ethan Grotheer

Most likely, you are overspined. Real quick way to tell: If you are right handed, shoot one of your shafts bare(no feathers) from about 15 yds into your target. If the nock end goes right at impact, you are too stiff in spine. You will need to use a heavier point to weaken it into the "sweet spot" for you. If the nock end goes left, you are weak in spine requiring a lighter point. Of course you are looking to have a shaft that impacts straight(there is variation of opinion on this) into the target. That's a very brief description, but it will tell you whats going on. Hope this helps.

Ethan

daniel reynolds

But that's the thing no matter how much weight I add it never changes any tell me why.
Obama,what a joke!

Ethan Grotheer

You prob needed to start with full length shafts. Extra arrow doesn't hurt a thing as long as it is tuned. That or you can really push the scale and try a 300-400 gr. point.

But this could also be from issues with your form. Get together with the man who offered to help you out above, and he'll be able to help you figure this out. Folks here are great that way.

daniel reynolds

He may not want to help me since my son wet on his shoe and and then scared him to death when he got a look at his snake!
Obama,what a joke!

eric-thor

form is everything! shoot well shoot hard.

Cherokee Scout

I will help you for sure. My shoe still smells!
I would say that the shafts are close. Gold Tip has a new trad shaft, 1535, that is lighter spine than the 3555.
The only way to know for sure is to bare shaft tune,  I will help you do that if you get this way.
John
John

Rackman

Hey Daniel according to Stu Miller's Dynamic Spine Chart assuming you actually draw 27" with GT 3555 @29" with  150 gr tip, you are about 6 lbs over spined with the arrow, if you are only actually drawing lets say 26" it would be about 10lbs different. Your arrow should be around 30" long to match the spine of your bow setup. Look up this Chart on the web, you will be amazed at how accurate it is.  Claudio
Black Widow PSAV 55@28

daniel reynolds

Hey Rackman, tell me how to pull this up. I've never heard of it.
Obama,what a joke!

CoilSpring

Daniel,
I work in Florence and live in Lexington about 35 minutes away.  Not as experienced as John, but a bit more convenient. Will help anytime if you want to come out my way or meet in florence at lunch or after works some day. I have a lot of point weights and arrow shafts types/sizes to experiment with.  PM me if interested.
Tim
CoilSpring

Fletcher

My preference is paper tuning.  It works great for me and seems easier to do and understand than bareshafting.
Good judgement comes from experience.  Experience comes from bad judgement.

"The next best thing to playing and winning is playing and losing."

"An archer doesn't have to be a bowhunter, but a bowhunter should be an archer."

Rackman

Hey Daniel, here is the link to Stu Millers spine calculator, you will be amazed at how accurate and helpful it is.  Good Luck  
http://www.heilakka.com/stumiller/
Black Widow PSAV 55@28


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