I hunted with John Nash in Texas back in '05-'06. He used an older Bear take down. I think that's the only bow he owns. Beware the man who owns 1 bow, he knows how to use it! John always got a nice hog and a couple of javelinas. Also shot a 6' alligator gar out of a small lake on the property. Said it was one of the things on his dream list! I believe he and his wife live in Iowa now. John is a quiet guy. You'd never guess he is such a great bow hunter.