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Hole-ly arrows

Started by ch1ch2, April 13, 2010, 10:27:00 AM

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d. ward

hold the phone here guy's I'am digging.Once again a somewhat normal looking arrow noc ??? maybe maybe not bd  

d. ward


lpcjon2

Now your next question should be in regards to broadheads and if you use the search feature and type in broadheads you will find tons of info and opinions and that will help out with choices for heads that will get you good blood.Remember to list your bow and arrow set up so the guys can assist you in the best set up for what you have.Some of these guys can kill a deer by just thinking about it.   :campfire:
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Terry Green

I'd spend my time improving my shooting rather than drilling holes. Much more important for sure is the performace of the hunter....not all the equipment.

I'm willing to bet that over 95% of unrecovered animals are due to human error than equipment failure....yet so many put so much faith in 'stuff' instead of themselves.

No, not a stupid question.....but neither is this one....How's your shooting coming along?
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d. ward

hole in the blade hole in the noc hollow aluminum shaft worked like a staw.Now from my point of view.I would have to say this is one of the best questions ever asked atually archery related.
I'll keep looking for the pics of the actual arrows that were sold on the open market.The one I have was a proto type of the market version great ?????? thank you bd  

JC

That's just a plain cool piece of history there Bowdoc.
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d. ward

JC the problemo was they never did work very well.The blades got filled with fat hide and hair the blood did not flow through the shaft at all a little to thick.
The others that were designed to break off did just that problem with those the broken end would get tucked under the hide and did nothing to help keep the wound open.Easy to see why they did'nt last long as a hot seller huh bd

Ryan Rothhaar

As I recall back in maybe the '80's there were fluted aluminum arrows - I think the primary reason was to strengthen the shaft so a lighter arrow could be used (SPEED, SPEED, SPEED, right?) for the same stiffness.  I also think I recall these being advertised to increase bloodtrails due to the flutes acting as blood grooves.

In reality unless you are shooting a broadhead that is only the diameter of your arrow shaft there is a much bigger hole cut in the hide/flesh than a shaft could ever "plug up".  Think about it.  

R

ch1ch2

Thanks!
That is really good feed back.
And to answer the question of how my shooting is.  I have spent a lot of time trying to find the right arrow, and the right point for my bow.  i have had days where I could not miss.  But for the most part I hit 90% in a 10 inch circle at 25 yards after about 5 minutes of warm up.

ch1ch2

And Bowdoc, Thanks for showing those arrows.  It's good to know my memory is still good and I did not confuse it with a dream.

elbow

In fact, in the early 1980's there was a company in my hometown of Poultney Vermont that had bleeeder holes in arrows and the arrows were designed to beak about every inch or so to supposedly facillitate bleeding. My father in law was one of the initial investors in the company and another was his best friend, a local attorney. The company was called "Shear Advantage" and in fact I found a Shear Advantage aluminum arrow in 2117 Autumn Orange at a yard sale a couple years ago and gave it to my father in law as a souvenir. The company is now defunct.

KentuckyTJ

I'm with OkKeith, lets not poohy on anyones parade, I think this or something like it is a great idea. Like others have said, new inventions come from crazy sounding fixes to a problem.

I've shot lots and lots of our Kentucky deer and had them run off with my arrow sticking out of them from bad hits and good hits that simply didn't pass through from my weak 50 lb bows. I do find the majority of them but something like this couldn't hurt anything.

Invent on I say, discussion is what talk forums are all about.
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Terry Green

ch1ch2...good to hear you are working on your shooting....sounds like its coming along.

bowdoc...I missed the 2nd pic....that is a cool arrow you got there....bet there's not many of them around.
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d. ward

shear advantage would be one of the companies along with ply flex that did build the hole in shaft arrows.But as mentioned all those companies and arrows are long gone.Well you do see the arrows for sale from time to time.
I wonderd about the broadhead bending on inpact with the modified type heads like that M-A 2 ? bd

Earl E. Nov...mber

Interesting thing about reading the history of oddities that have come and gone, and most of them start with..
Johnny got tired of not being able to find a good XYZ, so he started building his own. Then he started giving them to friends and before he knew it the demand was to great so he gave up his day job and started making his XYZ's full time.
(Unwritten is two years later the company went belly up and he was looking for his day job again)
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One has died for my soul.

JACKO357

Back in the late 70's early 80's there was an alloy bleeder arrow with holes on the market, came and went quickly. Not sure fluted arrows would aid bleed out either. I've made primitive arrows that I cut longitudinal grooves in to aid in keeping the shoot arrows straight. I think slots or holes in arrows are along the same lines as blood grooves in Bayonets - a myth.

Best blood trails always come from entrance and exit wounds as a result of adequately weighted arrows and razor scary sharp broadheads

regards Jacko
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vtmtnman

It's been done.Don't do it as others have said.Here's some pics of the old Shear advantage arrows from the 80's.







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d. ward

VT thats a great picture thank you.I would also like to put in a vote for NO.Yeah I know I posted how cool they were however thats not what I ment.The shear ad. and the ply flex just did not work well at all.As mentioned above a shot in the heart with a field tip will work better then a hollow straw in the butt.Shot placment is the key to a short blood trail.Again great thread bd

Terry Green

Wow....more cool pics of old archery stuff....this give me an idea....
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Terry Green

Guys....I started a Virtual Museum thread...if ya'll would, please post those pics and tell what they are on that thread.

Thanks.
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