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Hole-ly arrows

Started by ch1ch2, April 13, 2010, 10:27:00 AM

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ch1ch2

Has anyone ever drilled holes in aluminum arrows to act as bleeders to help bleed an animal? How many per inch? What size hole? How would they affect the flight of the arrow?  Will it cause noise? I know a good heart shot is all that is needed but we do not always make that good shot.

jrchambers

seems it would comprimise structure too much for me

lpcjon2

I would not recommend it,on release the arrow could cause damage to your person.Like mentioned above it will seriously compromise the integrity of the arrow.wouldn't want a broadhead in my forearm if the arrow collapses at release.    :scared:  
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Ragnarok Forge

Do not drill holes in perfectly good arrows!  The amount of blood that would flow out the arrow does not counter the damage that can occur when that arrow breaks and is rammed deep into your forearm.

Aluminums by nature are thin walled and when that wall is damaged ( drilled ) it will break on being fired within a few shots.
Clay Walker
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OkKeith

Seems to me if you drilled holes along the length of your alum. arrow, you would have just created a FLYING PICCALO!

That thing would whistle like crazy, and most likely fly erraticaly as the air caught unevenly as it spun through the air.

Seems like more practice would be a better use of the time. Then again, life is about experimentation. You could tune different arrows to different keys like Irish Penny Whistles.

OkKeith

Oh yeah, and the saftey thing as mentioned before!!!
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ch1ch2

That is something I thought about.  I considered if I went up 3 o4 sizes in order to get a stiffer spline it would work.  That is when I thought to post the question.

ch1ch2

I do like the idea of Irish Penny Whistles.

FerretWYO

Lots and Lots and Lots of animals bleed out just fine without drilling holes in arrows.
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ch1ch2

I kind of remember an arrow which was made with this concept.  I had holes around the point and had shear point in the shaft to break off the knock end of the arrow when the game ran through brush.  Maybe I just dreamed of it 30 years ago.

ch1ch2

I get the message. I will not be experimenting.

James Wrenn

Not sure how holes in an arrow could help anything at all?  :confused:  

You should be shooting through animals.Holes in an arrow do no good at all if it is stuck in the ground.jmo
....Quality deer management means shooting them before they get tough....

ch1ch2

I remember when I was a kid at YMCA camp, there was a deer that came in with other deer.  This deer had an arrow sticking out it's side.  They said it had been like that for several weeks.  The  deer had stopped bleeding and was healing up with the arrow sticking out.

NorthernCaliforniaHunter

I considered this concept too and came to the conclusion that holes would not work, however, a fluted shaft might, particularly if the flutes faded near the tip and near the tail for ease in applying feathers. Experiment! What the heck?!
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ch1ch2

I know the question sounded stupid to most of you but, for the last 40 years I have killed almost everything with a fire arm. The only thing I have shot with arrows is targets.   I am still in the learning mode with bows and arrows.

ch1ch2

I do appreciate the words of caution.

d. ward

actually in the 1950 Ply Flex sold solid fiberglass arrows somewhat like a fish arrow however they had holes spaced a certin distance apart and drilled the length of the arrow shaft from noc to tip to lighten the weight(I'll look for some pics this week) and as mentioned they were solid fiberglass not aluminum.
However once again I should mention there was some arrow shafting in the mid 1970's I believe that also had holes drilled through the shaft and a special hollow broadhead so the shaft would break off and just and you mentioned allow blood to drain a little earier or faster.To answer your question yes there are some still around and again I'll look for some pics this week bd

OkKeith

Carl,

Not a stupid question at all. Questions lead to answers that lead to other questions, that lead to discoveries.

If Thomas Edison had never asked the "stupid question" about making light without flame, where would we be now?

There has been a lot of looking into the idea of having an arrow shaft diameter smaller than the ferrule diameter of the broadhead. This allows for better penetration and I would imagine better blood loss on a no-exit shot.

I have heard other stories just like yours about camp deer with arrows in them. I would bet that the arrow only had a target point. It would of course cause damage but never penetrate very far or cut enough tissue to cause fatality. That's why they are TARGET POINTS.

Keep asking questions. That's how we learn.

OkKeith
In a moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing. The worst thing you can do is nothing.
Theodore Roosevelt

d. ward

wow got lucky on the first bucket of arrows I check in.Here's some food for thought bd     regular 1950'2 style M-A 2 ???

ARCHER2

You are by no means stupid my friend, you asked before you acted. Otherwise if you had compromised the integrity of the arrow and got hurt before you asked, now that might have been considered stupid by some. Never be scared to ask a question. I promise you for sure these folks will help you out. This is without a doubt the best group of folks I've ever seen as far as trying to help in any way they can. Welcome to the traditional side of archery.
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d. ward

well kind of kind of not check out this side bd  


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