What James Wrenn said  :D   plus or minus 20 grains

As far as your shoulder...tell Tommy to put you on "Light Duty" (LOL)

I have noticed a 50percent increase in speed when I took my bow quiver off. It's a Kanati. LOL. Just like we have talked about before John, Old James Wrenn is spot on with his info. I think I'll be OK. Got some axis with 213gns on the front for a total of 510 gns. shoot good out of the tradtech and the heavies shoot great out of the addiction. (a bow near and dear to my heart) I shot it with the 675gns today out to 40 yds. aint nothing but a thang. I kinda like getting to watch the arrow while it's getting there and when it does, it knocks my turkey target over every time. Don

Don - A few years ago I had a Crow Creek longbow that was about 43 - 44 lbs at my draw. My arrows were about 550 grain carbons. Shot an 80 lb. hog with it and a STOS broadhead. The arrow zipped through that hog so fast I was not sure of the hit. It completely shattered the front leg bone when it exited the hog - and that is a big bone even on an 80 pound hog....James Wrenn was with me when it happened - he was on one side of a bushy spot and me on the other and the hog chose to come out on my side    ...Everything else I've shot has been with 50# plus bows...Now whats gonna be interesting is if you get a hold of one of those gnarly 200# plus boar hogs with that lighter bow....
Another time I was hunting with James when he shot a gnarly boar that was 175+ pounds - if I remember right he was shooting about a 45 pound bow or so and he broke the back leg with one shot and shot clean through it quartering away with the second arrow - he was using a Simmons two blade on that one.


I personally think the broadhead is just as important as the bow weight...I'd probably shoot me a two blade or a low profile 3 blade like the Woodsman or VPA Terminators with that weight bow..

I personally like a little heaver bow for hunting but knowing how good a hunter you are I know the lighter bow will work fine for you...

Thanks Wally, I got the broadhead figured out. I shot the Abowyer Brown bears this year. Not a wide head like you and james's simmons, but I can get them babies so sharp you would not believe it. I shot 3 deer and they all bled out really quick. the longest trail was about 50yds and that one was shot almost straight down out of the stand. got one lung and the liver. the other two died in sight. All three just kinda bounded away like they had no clue what had happend. I think the sharpness and the two blade had alot to do with it. Tell Joyce I said hey.

I guess James did'nt lead that hog far enough if he hit it in the back leg? LOL Don

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Hey...speaking of products....when you gonna fix that leaky shop addition you built at my place.(LOL)

Stick with the Addiction or any lighter bow under 50 pounds. I think you'll be ok. I know my bones don't cooperate well with 55 plus pounds.

Wally
I've read most of the book you sent me. Great read! Thanks

With your accuracy, and the attention to details and practice that are an intragral part of your shooting/hunting ethics, Don, I can't imagine you'll have any problems putting anything you hunt down to stay, with whatever setup you settle on. Having said that, however it has made for an interesting thread with lots of comments from other folks whose opinions I have also learned to respect. (Just be careful with "My" Addiction, knocking around after those hogs, will ya?   :D  )

Last year I went pig hunting in West Texas, and one of the bowhunters (Brent Hill) killed a 225# boar with a mid-40's Bob Lee and an unweighted carbon arrow. Back at camp, he set the hog up on a sand hill and took another test shot. The arrow, tipped with a 1964 Bear Razorhead, went through both shields.

Don, I'm sure with your accurate shooting and that sharp broadhead you will do just fine. Getting older and old injuries can be tough. Feeling a little of that myself.

Don reguardless of what you might hear some hogs can jump the string just like a deer.  :D  

Either way at 30yds a 45lb bow put a big simmons through both hams,broke the big leg bone all the way into on the far side with a 480gn arrow.The follow up shot at 35yds put the treeshark out the far shoulder on the quartering shot.Have also shot through both shoulder blades and never found the arrow on a 150 lber from the more reasonable 20 and under shots.You got plenty of bow and with small broadhead you can shoot through most hogs you see length wise if things don't wotk out.    I would be a lot more concerned about what kind of boots I was wearing if the snakes are out than the bow you are useing. jmo  

Thanks to all for the help. I think I got a good handle on it . Did right much shooting today from 10 to 40+ yards with my broadhead of choice. Abowyer brown bear. confidence in very high on this end. thanks again, Don

i have played around with heavy arrows some. i also shoot 45-48# bows because of shoulder problems. i think that when you get past 12gpp you start to loose. not saying that a 10 yard shot with a 700 grain arrow would not be good, but what about a 25 yard shot? i think that with the rainbow tradgectory at longer distances the best all around  arrow weight is around 10-12 gpp.

       benji

One thing many seem to forget about with heavy arrows is the higher arch.Sure out in an open lane or yard you soon adapt to the extra arch in the heavier arrow.However in the woods where lanes are not cut and particularly chasing hogs in the swamps there will be shots that the extra arch will keep you from making.There will be places a flatter shooting arrow will get under limbs instead of hitting them.Granted hunting hogs usually means you can get a few steps closer when needed,but not always.Since the lighter arrow will kill them just as dead I honestly see no reason in adding arch that need not be there.  

I would vote for the heavier arrows.  I have shot elk with lighter (450-500gr.) and heavier (590-650gr.) arrows and light bows and have always gotten significantly better penetration from the heavier arrows-all with 2 blade heads.  You just have to limit your shot distance and get "stickbow close".