QuoteOriginally posted by bravedeer:
I'm yawning just as much as I was before    

Just like the PMs I sent you back in December during a discussion here about the Tiahrt Amendment and Barack Hussein Obama's views on gun rights.

You claim to be able to discredit the info I sent you, but as of this moment, both PMs still show as unread by you.

You, sir, are nothing more than a troll.

Bavedeer, you are yawning away your future and the future of your family.

I did write both my senators, but I'm not surprised at the votes by either of those anti-gun, anti-hunting sleazeballs. I mean, come on, what else would you expect from Lautenberg and Menendez?

QuoteOriginally posted by Steve in Canton:
What I find amazing about this is the timing of the vote.  They did this vote right before the President had his speech before congress tonight.  I wonder if these elected officials voted for him because they new that the health care debate would overtake the nation and that the ordinary uninformed citizen would not realize what just happened.

Yup... that's Washington for you.  We live in a country that claims to be "Of the people, for the people, and by the people" yet these back-door, late night, stealth votes happen all the time... their like teenagers sneaking around with drugs (which many of them have!) because they KNOW what they are doing is 1. wrong 2. not the will of the majority AND 3. will cost them votes.  Its pretty sickenly sad.

BUT we DO need to put some blame on previous administrations for open the unconstitutional doors... The Patriot Act is a vial bill that trumps civil liberties... and what's good for the goose is often good for the gander... so now the new regime will enact their socialist agenda in that spirit, spear-headed by one of the most frightening people in Washington, Nancy Peloci.  You can BET she had a hand in this cloture and nomination... she is a wack-job.  But I digress...

BOTH my Senators voted for this moron.  I have NEVER support either of them.  Dodd and Lieberman are the epitome of liberalism, socialism, and wind-checking.  BOTH are CAREER politicians and have never thrown a hammer, flipped a burger, or rung a register in their lives.  How can these folks possibly represent me and my family?

Enough of that... I plan to write my Senators and the President to express me disgust.  Maybe they won't read it, maybe they will, but in this great nation, that is our first weapon of attack, with the coup de grass being the vote.

Screw these guys to tell me or suggest I cannot do something I love to do...   :mad:

Oh...

The one thing we have going for us the power of industry... hunting is a billion (if not more) dollar business in this country and corporations like Mathews, Cabelas, Colt, Ruger, Remmington, etc... have a HUGE interest in its legality.  I am SURE those businesses will have sway in a city where money and campaign contributions talk...

At least, for the interim, let's hope they do..

QuoteJust like the PMs I sent you back in December during a discussion here about the Tiahrt Amendment and Barack Hussein Obama's views on gun rights.

You claim to be able to discredit the info I sent you, but as of this moment, both PMs still show as unread by you.

You, sir, are nothing more than a troll.

The troll happens to be the person who keeps starting these threads and infusing politics that is irrelevant to hunting. The only reason you fail to call him out on it is because you happen to agree with his politics.

Kohl is so far to the left he can't even see me let alone understand my language. Feingold who knows hes all over the board usally says one thing than does another.

Just a reminder from the title page....

"Expect to be respected if you decide to join the gang, because the rule of respect is held highest of the few rules that apply. Tradgang.com has a zero tolerance for disrespect directed to anyone. If you want to disagree, then please do so in an adult manner. Debate is healthy, as one sword sharpens another, but it must be done in an honorable fashion."

I called both of my Senators yesterday before the vote (yea a bit late but it's better than nothing).  When I found out they voted for him, I immediately informed them I will no longer be voting for them in the next election.  Mr. Sunstein's beliefs are nearly opposite of mine and most of the people in my state and I can only imagine they voted for him because of party affiliation.

If'n they want to help the economy... loss of hunting privelidges and animal right's is only gonna hurt it with more job loss and more critters to eat everything in sight.
Do the folks in washington even look at the letters we right?
We need to CALL them or show up on their doorstep.
I'm right with you Ray. I posted a post on POWWOW a little while back about Sustein and it got bumped to politics. Hope this one stays here cause it definetly gets more traffic and needs to heard. And I'm right there with the comment someone else made on this thread "legal hunting may stop" but they will have to throw me in a whole somewhere to stop me from hunting. Not just a past time here but a way of survival and provision for filling my families belly. I follow the hunting laws to the T but if they tell me I can't hunt at all then I'll guss I'll be a criminal but I ain't going hungry I can tell you that.
I will pay better attention to who I vote for from now and admittedly have not in the past but find myself very consious of politics over the last several years and did vote for my moral beleifs in the last Election not "Change".
I agree this Country needs change but not the change we are getting. We need to get back to morals and good ol' American Freedom.
Kris

I didn't write my Senators, because I already know where they stand on such issues (NAY!). Wildlife regulation got its start in Mississippi, when Theodore Roosevelt declined to shoot a bear that was presented to him, on the grounds that it was unsportsmanlike, which resulted in the "Teddy Bear" when word got around. Teddy went on to found many of the conservation organizations that protect our wildlife and other natural resources through wise use.

I'm normally an optimistic person, but I despair for the future of our "rights" to do what we wish in a free country, whether it be hunting, fishing, or anything else you can name that someone else thinks we shouldn't do. I hate to say it, but some kind of revolution is coming, whether peaceful (I hope) or not. Things are getting too out of balance, and something will correct it.

We live in a redneck society, and I don't mean that in a disparaging way. Rednecks are merely people who spend enough time outdoors to get some sun- farmers, hunters, foresters, fishermen, gardeners, etc. The redneck element exists in every State. These people, my friends, will never allow hunting to be taken from them, any more than they will register or give up their hunting guns or archery equipment. Bows and arrows, guns and ammunition can be manufactured by individuals, and they will be if a ban happens. If hunting is outlawed, we will become outlaws. I will not stop no matter what the government says, and neither will the majority of real Americans who live in touch with the land, who are still the majority in this country, no matter what CNN says! The news media do not represent the real world as most of us experience it.

God I love the internet.

QuoteOriginally posted by Biggie Hoffman:
Bavedeer, you are yawning away your future and the future of your family.

A quick search of bravedeer's past posts on this forum, as well as a Google search, will quickly reveal that bravedeer has many views that differ from those of most of us here.

After reading his blog, and some of his comments on other websites, I'm not at all surprised by many of his posts here.

It seems to me that bravedeer is not a bowhunter, but rather someone who is using TradGang to spread his liberal views on the world.

Duplicate post.

The sad thing is that we, as hunters, are the minority in political voting. 90% of voters dont hunt or care if a law hurts us hunters. They dont understand what we do. This is where hunter ethics plays a big role. If you are sitting in Mcdonalds with blood on your clothes and a deer laying in the bed of your truck for all to see. The non hunter sitting beside you thinks "What a moron, That animal didnt do anything to him". The next vote they will remember that day in mcdonalds. We have to do everything we can to swing the non hunter votes........Roy

QuoteOriginally posted by bravedeer:
The troll happens to be the person who keeps starting these threads and infusing politics that is irrelevant to hunting. The only reason you fail to call him out on it is because you happen to agree with his politics.

Actually, the politics are in fact, quite relevant to hunting.

Great post Ray!! Sad that some folks just don't get it.