what broadhead/adapter combo would be the toughest for a total of 250gr sharpened? note- possible water buff use.

125gr adapter + 125gr head
or
100gr adapter + 150gr head (el grande)
or
100gr adapter + 160gr head (any loss in weight during sharpening to bring it down to 250gr??)

would the 1st two combos come in under 250gr after sharpening?

also, what is the blade thickness and cut width of each?

thanks

My guess would be the 160 grain head as I believe its the same dimensions as the 125 grainer but will be thicker...and yeah...you are gonna lose a few grains sharpening, and you will put a few grains back on with the glue.

If is HAS to be 250 grains on the nose...just glue 1st and sharpen to the desired weight using a grain scale and you can dial them in.

i had a feeling that the 160"s were thicker and stronger.

anything from 245gr-255gr would be alright.

I agree, the 100 gr steel adapter plus 160 Grizzly would be the toughest of the lot.

The 125 and 150 are about the same thickness, but the 150 is dimensionally larger.  The 160 is the same thickness as the 190, but about 1 rockwell softer.

The 160 is a great choice.  

thanks slowbow. i like the narrower cut of the 160gr over the wider el grande. mainly because it might penetrate more on a buff for my 69# recurve.

Ozy,
Consider the El Grande 190 broadhead being the toughest of the Grizzly clan.  Seams to be the best made, best steel, etc, of the clan.  That 190 mated to a 100 grain steel insert with JB Weld would be about as tough as they come.

Can you bump up your total shooting weight by 40 grains?

not sure? would have to retune i guess. then i would only be able to use those arrows with those heads. that's why i like to stick with 250gr heads.if i went with a 190gr i could use a 75gr adapter and sharpen it alot??? more work and expense for the same thing though.

G'day Clint, good to see you are getting ready for the buff when you get home.
When I sharpened the El grandes with a 75 gn adaptor I got them down to a 265 gn finished weight.
Tommo

that might be allright. i'm not good enough to notice the difference i bet.

I'd go with the 160 with a 100 grain adapter and not think twice about it. The one I shot my elk with last year still shaves hair. They are tough and hold an edge.

I believe if you follow the mods like Asby says the 190 will whittle down to 170.

I like 160s with 100 grain adapters - what I shoot now when I am shooting a 2 blade. The arrows like em too.  They hold an edge very well once you get them where they will take one!!! It took me awhile.

J

QuoteOriginally posted by J-dog:
I believe if you follow the mods like Asby says the 190 will whittle down to 170.

I like 160s with 100 grain adapters - what I shoot now when I am shooting a 2 blade. The arrows like em too.  They hold an edge very well once you get them where they will take one!!! It took me awhile.

J

Yup, I just sharpened 6 190s yesterday for Tradtusker to Ed's specs and the finished weights were 170-175 gr. (6 heads). The 160s usually come out around 145- 150 gr. with a 25 degree bevel. Of course by varying the bevel angle you can influence what the finished weights will be.

I prefer steel adapters over aluminum and longer adapters over shorter ones. When going after truly large game it's particularly important that the adapter fill the ferrule as completely as possible so that the adapter can't slide forward on a heavy bone hit which can cause the head to split apart.

Ron

anyone got a link to where ashby explains his mods?

thanks

Clint, the 75 grain broadhead adapters (3rivers) had a bad reputation for failure where the ferule attaches  to the flaired portion.  So much material was removed to get to 75 grains that the whole danged thing became weak.  Suggest you stick w/ 100 gr or 125 gr adapters, stay away from 75 gr steel and anything that says aluminum.

heard the same thing about the 75gr adapters too.
might put some 160gr grizzlies and 100gr adapters on my next archery order.

I would not recommend a short adapter of any type for use with a really heavy game set up either.

http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=049958

thanks j-dog.

190 head sharpened with a short 75 grain steel adapter- I just got some very nice adapter from abowyer  to use with there broadheads as well as my grizzlies- right around 250 grains