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is it better to be stiff or weak

Started by mike319, June 06, 2009, 06:52:00 PM

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mike319

when bare shafting is it better to end up alittle on the stiff side.
thanks
mike

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reddogge

I would guess it depends on how long your bareshaft arrow is.  If it's weak you can shorten it a little at a time to dial it in if you have the length.  If it's stiff add weight to the point...easier maybe.
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Pinecone

Slightly weak for sure.  Remember that fletchings will have the effect of stiffening the shaft.  So, if you finish bareshafting with a shaft that hits weak by about 3-4 inches, you should be dead on when you add your feathers.

Claudia
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mike319


sweet old bill

Being in the archery business over the years I have always been able to get a stiff arrow to fly but not a wqeak spine that never recovers..


stiff you can add tip weight etc.
you should see how I use to shoot
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Benny Nganabbarru

I reckon there's more room for error on the stiff side of things; way too stiff still flies (just try shooting one of your own arrows out of a kid's bow); a little weak is okay, too, but any more and they'll be all over the place (especially with broadheads). Well, they're my observations.
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vermonster13

Slightly weak when bareshafting. Fletching and broadheads will stiffen the arrow slightly.
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Don Stokes

My bare-shafting set has 125 g. points, so I go a little stiff to compensate for heavier broadheads.

Dan Quillian thought it was better to be a little stiff, because slightly stiff arrows shoot better (more accurately) than slightly weak ones.
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bayoulongbowman

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NoCams

JMHO, but I was taught to be ever so slightly weak on the bareshaft for several reasons. As pinecone and vermonster have already said you are adding about 30-40 grains to the back of the arrow with feathers which stiffens the spine. Also most people in a hunting situation with extra clothes, cold, buck fever, etc, etc; tend to short draw a little too. All these issues add up to a potentially stiff arrow. Again, JMHO.

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Over&Under

QuoteOriginally posted by Pinecone:
Slightly weak for sure.  Remember that fletchings will have the effect of stiffening the shaft.  So, if you finish bareshafting with a shaft that hits weak by about 3-4 inches, you should be dead on when you add your feathers.

Claudia
Claudia is spot on!!
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Bob Morrison

The lady is right, as usual. The bare shaft should be slightly under spined.

mike319

so from what i gather its a matter of opinion some like it on the stiff side and some like it on the weak side.
thanks
mike

bayoulongbowman

ur right , I meant slightly week...
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SCATTERSHOT

A lot of it is subjective, depending on your shooting style and type of bow, among other things.
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BRITTMAN

Mike ,
When Bare shafting you do need to be a "tad" weak as most have said . BUT for a arrow already fletched with points or broadheds ready to hunt , being a little stiff is better than being a little weak if that makes any since to ya .

Mike
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longbow55

Ken Beck says it is better to be a little over spined. But I try to never disagree with a lady who has killed a lot more animals than I have.
I would try OL's method of three bare shaft and three fletched shafts for shooting, and getting them to group together.
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McDave

Rick Welch says it is better to be a little under spined, and I wouldn't disagree with a man who has won as many tournaments as he has.  I wonder though....obviously being as good an archer as he is, he must have a near perfect release.  Could that have anything to do with why he prefers an underspined arrow, whereas that might not work out as well for the rest of us?
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Bowmania

Somebody explain "add fletching to stiffen the arrow".  WHAT ABOUT THE ARROW THAT IS FLETCHED!!!  We're shooting bare shafts and fletched then looking at the difference in impact.  To me that statement doesn't make sense.

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