Guys I am using the 100 grain Magnus and am tired of the heads coming off the adapter and the tips curling while practicing.  I know a lot of guys like zwickey but they look so much like the Magnus it makes me nervous to buy with out asking you guys your thoughts.  I need a little heavier head and can buy them heavy enough that I can bob the tip so it does not curl if needed.  I am not trying to bust bone but I want to be able to shoot a 3D target without bent tips and leaving broadheads in my target because the dang glue did not hold.  What do you think?

Sorry I should have done a search on the zwickey.  I guess I just got on a roll.

No problem!  Those Zwickeys are tuff for sure.  You might want to take a look at Ace broadheads too.  IMHO they are just as tuff if not tuffer than the Zwicks.

I feel your pain with the magnus.I think they must oil coat the inside of the head before they glue them.I had the 100gr heads,and pulled three of them off the adapter.I also had 4 blade zwickey eskimos,Never pulled one off and they were stuck in trees,targets,snow and ice banks,and the ground.My complaint with the zwickeys is if you hit something hard you'll drive the adapter right into the ferrule.I have on most of mine,but they still shoot good.

I'm the type of person that if it work's I don't change it.Zwicky's are no differen.26 Years ago when switched over to a compound wasp's to a recurve and 2 dozzen zwicky's.12 Years ago when the season started I only had 3 left.Of these 2 dozzen broadheads at one time I had 5 different heads that had 2 or more kills on them with one haveing 7 kills on it.So Ihave no complaints.I got another dozzen and again I still have 4 left 14 years.

The Aboyer heads are sure getting good reviews.

I don't agree with the 'soft' comment.  I've never bent a stock Zwickey and I've been shooting them since the mid 80's.  I have bent a couple I modified but I remove too much metal behind the try lam.  My fault.

I have found them to be harder than magnus, as the Zs are harder to sharpen, but hold an edge longer....and the tips tent to chip instead of bent....meaning they are harder steel.

Proof of them being harder in the fact that I have bent magnus before, but only chipped the points on Zs....about the 1st 1/8th inch on off leg bones and rocks after pass throughs.

I can't say that I have bent a lot of magnus heads, as I didn't fool with them long as the Zs have never let me down....and I have a hard time leaving them with all the game I've killed with them due to their performance.

Not sure about the adapters driving into the furrel as I've never had that happen with Zs either...and last I heard, both are brazened by the same company.

I shot Zwickeys for a few years and agree with Terry's post. If I was interested in shoot a 4-blade head again, it'd definately be a Zwickey.

Ok you guys are making me feel better.  If I buy the Zwickey it will be the 135 grainers.  Nobody seems to be saying anything bad about them pulling off the factory adapter so they must hold pretty well?  On the lighter 135 grain head do you think it would be neccesary to put the chissel tip on it.

I've never seen factory broadhead adapters on Zwickeys. Shot them for 30 years and have no reason to change. But I have always put an adapter on, if shooting aluminum , myself. I just get the inside of the feral very hot to burn off all the oil and paint and do not have the problem of the head coming off in the target or game.

If you buy them loose and put them on adapters yourself you could easily solve the problem of them pulling off in targets.  As far as bending goes I have a Zwickey Delta that is on a 600 grain maple arrow that I have been stump shooting with for years out of my 64# recurve and it has never bent.  Eclipse also makes a very tough broadhead.

Stalkin4elk

I like the Abowyer head, too but they seem to be sold out.

I switched to only Zwickey's in the late 1980's.. I have NEVER had any issues whatsoever. I mean these are tough, effective and easy to get "crazy" sharp broadheads... They just work,, everytime!

John III

I just made the switch to the Deltas, and they seem great. I have them mounted on a 125 steel adapter. I Didnt have any problem getting them sharp....

I have shot Zwickeys for years and they are tough. Takes time to get them sharp but once they are sharp they are easy to touch up. If they have a fault is that they rust easy. I have started to wipe some mineral oil on them after sharpening and this seems to help.  

I killed two deer with the same head last season, they work good for me. Four blade Black Diamond heads are my first choice.

Zwickeys are great heads.  I've shot through deer shoulders twice (oops) with a Zwickey 4 blade and 50-ish bows.  The Zwickey's seem to be a little harder steel to me than Magnus heads although Magnus passionately disagrees with that notion.      

The Magnus heads are excellent as well and I shoot them a lot, the Magnus you were using is one of the weakest heads they make and I'm sure that is part of your problem.  I think you'd find a 125 gr Magnus II glue on much stronger and Magnus does have the advantage of being easier to sharpen if that's an issue for you.

Good hunting whatever you choose.    

I've bent a couple Zwicky on deer.

I kind of wish I had not put the 100 grain brass inserts in my arrows because it makes sense that a 100 grain broadhead is going to be more likely to bend than a bigger heavier broadhead.  I guess I am going to give Zwicky a try.  Thank you all for your comments.

i have had problems befor with magnus but every time i do i just take them back to the store where i got them and got new ones they have the warrenty for a reson i guess if your store won't do it send it back to them they will take it i take a lot of the stingers my wife mess's up back no questions asked i get new ones