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Started by hawgslayer, January 06, 2009, 06:48:00 PM

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hawgslayer

HAWGSLAYER

07 BOB LEE HUNTER 49#'S
09 MARTIN 48#'s
CVA ACCURA 50 CAL.
BL/STAINLESS
SEMPER FI

Keep your feathers dry and your nose in the wind and become the predator that we really are.

stevewills

great article,i too have tried it and still need to work at it
i like biscuits

ron w

I like it ,it seems that it might be really more natural in a hunting situation. I still need to work on it!!!!!
In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities. In the expert's there are few...So the most difficult thing is always to keep your beginner's mind...This is also the real secret of the arts: always be a beginner.  Shunryu Suzuki

STEVE R.

I have tried it. I think when I twist my body it helps to stabilize any body movement.It is a good stance to practice with even if you don't use it as your primary stance. It could help in a hunting situation.

wharvey

I've also tried it and seem to shoot a bit better than when using a more traditional stance, at least inside 25 yards.

It does seem to me that my draw length is quite as long but I haven't measured it. Next time I get out my chronograph I'll see how much arrow speed I lose.
Bill

Martin Howatt Hunter 35#@28"
Martin Hatfield 55#@28"
Grey Ghost 40#@28"

Swamp Preacher

I've used this stance from the get go.  Put a little more angle on your bow and the arrow will move right!
When a man walks in the fear of God he knows no fear, even if he 
were to be surrounded by wicked men. This makes him strong 
and able to take on anything, even things which seem difficult or 
impossible to most people. St. Symeon

Jedimaster

Tried it and like it.  I think it's a good thing to add to your repertoire.  As long as it doesn't screw up your form in your current stance.  I happen to shoot a little more accurately this way although I find it a little unnatural.  Maybe with time it will feel more comfortable.
Do or do not ... there is no "try"

Cum catapulatae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.

Flinttim

Good article. Come to find out I shoot like that a lot. If you shoot at our club you eventually learn to shoot from about every position. LOL.
Genesis 27:3 Now therefore take, I pray thee, thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field, and take me some venison;

Bowtie

As soon as I read the article, I was down in my basement trying the stance. It was easier and more comfortable than I thought that it would be.  I need to practice it more.... stump shooting will be a good exercise for this.
The work praises the man.

SpankyNeal

I like it! I think my left/right deviation is actually a little less using this stance. I'm going to include it in my normal practice routine and put it to some good use!
Ken "Spanky" Neal

4 Sunset Hills and counting!

66" 59# "White Dragon"
65" 56# "El Tigre"
67" 47# "Quiet Places"
66" 57# "Lionheart"

"Speed is vital, however it is absolutely worthless when you exchange it for stability and accuracy"...John Schulz

calgarychef

I've been doing that "stance thing" ever since I started shooting.  I'm surprised it needed an explanation but it's just so darned natural to pivot the knees and swing the hips. Shhhh don't tell anyone that it works backwards too....somebody might be able to figure it out in another 15 years and write an article.

cheers

trapperDave

whole different world over here, huh hawgslayer?   :wavey:    :goldtooth:  

I find it useful.

Bill Tell

Yes have been trying it since I read the article.  Seems to work just fine.  I tend to forget to bend my knees and when I do it doesn't work as well.  Seems like if I get my balance over my toes then I shoot the best with it.
"I'm going to find my direction magnetically. " Eddie Vedder

wharvey

I decided to brave the cold and got my chronograph out and and see how much speed is lost using this stance.  I used my Martin Hunter with a 35 lb draw to make sure I was getting a full draw. Below is my data.  

I threw out the high and low values in each group and had my wife mark my arrow to measure the draw length. I was surprised at the amount my draw length dropped. Maybe it is just me.

   Martin Hunter   
   35# 28"   
   Arrow Wt. 485gr.   
      
   Standard.....Asbell
   Stance.......Stance
Shot   Draw = 31"...Draw = 29"
1.......146.4........137.0
2.......148.2........137.8
3.......149.2........136.9
4.......149.7........137.6
5.......147.1........139.4
6.......151.0........136.1
7.......145.7........138.3
8.......149.4........137.6
9.......148.2........138.8
10......150.7........136.3
      
Average   148.6........137.6
StdDev   1.8..........1.1
Ek   23.8.........20.4
Bill

Martin Howatt Hunter 35#@28"
Martin Hatfield 55#@28"
Grey Ghost 40#@28"

Bakes168

I tried it too and I like shooting that way better than turned sideways. I am now teaching both my brothers the "bowhunter's stance".
"A hunt based only on trophies taken falls short of what the ultimate goal should be...time to commune with your inner soul as you share the outdoors with the birds, animals, and fish that live there"
-Fred Bear

James 2:19-20

USMC Infantry

Java Man

Tried it and like it.  I just have to remind myself before I shoot.  It will take me a little time before it feels natural.
"TGMM Family of the Bow"

hawgslayer

:campfire:  

Your 100% correct trapperDave. It's like some forums (members) thrive on bashing everything and everyone including fellow members. I know that everyone has an opinion but you don't have to push it down another members throat because you like it or dislike it. I really believe that all those people who bashed the stance never read the article or gave the stance a chance. Seems like the real TRADITIONAL SHOOTERS are right here and HERE is were I'm staying. My deceision is not based on who liked the article or who didn't. It's based on how people bashed ABSELL and then started bashing each other.

Ray...............  :archer:
HAWGSLAYER

07 BOB LEE HUNTER 49#'S
09 MARTIN 48#'s
CVA ACCURA 50 CAL.
BL/STAINLESS
SEMPER FI

Keep your feathers dry and your nose in the wind and become the predator that we really are.

maineac

I have not had much chance to work on it yet (Maine winter).  But when I first picked up the bow in a college archery course the instructor would set up competitions with a variety of stances and distances.  It was the best way to improve your shooting in my opinion. Besides in the woods you never know where the deer will really come from, despite "the best laid plans"
The season gave him perfect mornings, hunter's moons and fields of freedom found only by walking them with a predator's stride.
                                                             Robert Holthouser

Dartwick

Why dont we leave other forums out of it. I saw the thread. I think it went down a little different than is being presented.

Wouldnt it be better to focus on on what you like here rather than rip on other places.
Wherever you went - here you are.

hawgslayer

:campfire:  
I'm not one for bashing or ripping anything or anyone. If that was the case I would have mentioned the names or those other forums. What I stated above is why I stopped "logging in" on the other forums.
I don't know which forum you read but I asure you I asked the same question I did on this forum. The replies on the other forums turned into bashing ABSELL and then members turned on themselves. If you have time Dartwick, go back and read my last reply. I really don't think I was bashing or ripping. I was only stating a fact......   :archer:
HAWGSLAYER

07 BOB LEE HUNTER 49#'S
09 MARTIN 48#'s
CVA ACCURA 50 CAL.
BL/STAINLESS
SEMPER FI

Keep your feathers dry and your nose in the wind and become the predator that we really are.


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