What do you guys think are they "skinny" worth the money? Do they out penetrate other arrows?
What experiences have y'all had?

chris <><

In foam and bag targets they seem to penetrate deeper than aluminum, wood and regular carbons but on animals I can't tell for sure...a pass through is a pass through.

I don't particularly care for the HIT inserts but they do seem very durable.

i shoot the full metal jackets. i like them very much.i have no problems with them. i even stump shoot with them. can't wait to try easton's new dangerous game fmj. they should really hit hard.

I shoot both and love them better than anything I've shot in the last 50 years or so. I foot them with 1" aluminum sleeves and they are pretty bomb proof. I think they are about the best hunting arrow out there.

what size aluminum shafts do you use to foot the axis with?
SL

I just changed to MFX and AXIS. From what I've tested they do out penetrate others. I was down my local range and they have some very hard bag type butts. First I shot a G Stick 656grn it went 4-5"s in. Then Carbon Express 250 645grns 4.5-5.5"s in. Last a AXIS at just 483grns I was amazed to see 6.5-7.5"s in. Those shots were repeated several times. That light arrow having less surface drag just stuck deeper. I'm sold on them. Shot my first deer with them on New Years day. It passed trough and stuck deep in the hard ground on the opp side. They work if you ask me.

I've been using both for three or four years now. They do make a difference in penetration. They are very tough. I agree, a passthrough is a psssthrough and a lot of shot's on deer are going to be passthrough. The skinny shafts are going to help out on marginal hits, marginal bow weight setups and also with cutting down on arrow parodox on bows not cut to or past center.  

I have a friend whose son shot a doe and a buck in his first MI bow hunting season. He was using a thirty pound bear recurve at about twenty five inches of draw. The arrows were twenty eight inches, with two hundred grains of point weight and total weight around 470 grains. He was also using grizzly two blade heads.  This is an EXTREMELY marginal setup, but skinny arrows were part of that successful equation.  If you're shooting above fifty pounds on deer with eight to ten grains per pound arrow weight and a good broadhead design, your not going to see a difference on average shots from one arrow to another, because they're going to pass through.

I use 1916 to sleeve my axis 500.

I like the Beman MFX. I use a 100 grain brass insert and think they are great arrows.

This may give you some confidence:


http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=060165

sure wish that Easton would make a FMJ in a "classic finish" like the legacy's.  Those aluminum outers make a big difference when pulling them from stubborn foam critters.

This may be a dumb question, but why do you foot the shafts,please tell me, I to have looked at using the axis shaft.  THANKS

This may be a dumb question, but why do you foot the shafts,please tell me, I to have looked at using the axis shaft.  THANKS

Steve O, thanks for the link, good info!
I have been shooting 55/75 GT out of a St Joe River longbow 58lbs, I had a 100gr. insert then a WW on the end. Very nice arrow, great penetration on many deer.
I just ordered some Heritage 250's b/c I liked the per inch weight better then the GT (11gr. vs. 9.3). This should give me a extra 50grains in total arrow weight (right near 600).
After I ordered these 250's I found a place that is selling the orginal ST Axis Camo shaft for $60/dz. I thought that was a excellent deal.
Will these Axis out perform the 250's?????
I was able to purchase just one shaft and I will play with that this weekend.
Thanks all

chris <><

the Heritage Are nice arrows stronger than all the other carbons iv used until i tried the Beman MFX shafts they are great shafts.

I really like the Beman Black Max arrows. Toughest arrow I have ever shot. I have not damaged one in 2 years of shooting. You wont be dissapointed.

onebwhtr,
I like to sleeve my arrows, because the areas that I hunt are filled with rocks.  My shafts last way longer with the sleeves, when impacting solid objects.  Also our local 3D range is filled with rocks.  I miss a lot, so it saves me money.            
     
Most of my hunting areas are rocky like this.


 
Plus I like the way it looks with my razorcaps.    :D    


 

Arrow busting boulders behind the 3D!

Ryan

ryan how did you sleeve those arrows in detail?

looked good ryan