I have always shot heavy broadheads and noticed lately that none of the retailers I usually order from seem to have any in stock.

Does anyone know what's going on?

i'm new to this trad stuff and there is practically nothing at any of the archery stores around here.  i can't find a broadhead here over 125.

Raptor Archery Always has my snuffer 160's as for 3Rivers.... what kind are they?

Thanks for the replies.
I usually shoot snuffer 160's for bear and am o.k. for this season  but I wanted to order some heavy 2 blade's for moose  at the same time as some other stuff I needed (wanted).
I don't have access to bow shops or stores except for a very limited selection 350 miles away.

I have shot a variety of 160 gr 2 blades including grizzlies but wanted to try the 190's or the heavier tuskers.

Three Rivers Archery carries the Magnus I, Zwickey Delta, Snuffer and the Grizzly in 160 grain.  Right now only the Grizzly is offered in 190.  I buy glue on broadheads and have many weight options with screw in adapters.

Ken -- Like Grizzly heads being temporarily out of supply almost everywhere, the shortage of heavy heads could be a result of folks paying attention to Dr. Ashby's research advice. Heavy heads give us two good things: a heavier arrow overall, and increased front-of-center (FoC) balance, both of which contribute significantly to penetration, esp. through bone, thus to increased lethality, thus decreased wounding loss. Problem with most current heavy heads is that they are too big, esp. too wide. Expect a whole slew of new Ashby-inspired 2-blade heads soon, where the extra weight will be due to thicker steel, not larger overall size. For years I shot 125s, and lost too much game. Then I moved to 145, then 160, and now anxiously await the coming crop of Really heavy heads, 180 and above. That's the wave of the future, at least for those of us hunting big-big game, elk, moose and bigger. If I were shopping for new heads I'd wait as long as possible before the fall seasons, and meanwhile get my setup balanced by practicing with heavy field points ... which also should be getting heavier in response to increased demand. Dave

What about the Ace heads? Seems like the suppliers carry them, are they out too?

glue on heaver broad heads i can find,  but i cannot find any heavy ones that are screw in

QuoteOriginally posted by owlbait:
What about the Ace heads? Seems like the suppliers carry them, are they out too?

i just bought 6 2blade 160g glue on ace heads and they still had a ton left.  they fly awsome out of my bow as well!

I am shooting muzzy phantoms 200gr this year.  Been flyin real good for me. I was using simmions 190gr, but didn't fly as well for me.

Simmons is hard to get these days.

If you can find the glue-ins it is a small step to glue them to adapters. Ace glue-on run up to 175-200 grain.

I'll give another thumbs up to Ace broadheads. I've used 125-grain Standards on animals from grouse to deer, elk and moose with nothing but excellent results.

When I saw Bob & Jan (owners of Ace) a couple months ago, they had plenty of heavy broadheads in stock. You may want to get in touch with them.

www.AceArcheryTackle.com

Ace 160 w/ 45gr adpt,Thru the shoulder blade,centered rib under the blade and buried uner the skin on the opposite side.

What Jason said.

You don't 'need' a heavier than normal head to kill anything in N America.

Dave,

Can I get a list of 'those of us'???  

I shoot the Phantoms at 220 and Razorcaps at 200. Any glue on bh can be turned into a screw in by gluing them onto a screw in adapter. You can also fit your arrows with heavier screw in adapters. There are lots of ways to make bhs heavier....even the glue ons.  I think, as well, that Steelforce makes some heavy heads for African hunting and work has it that they will be coming out with a titanium, single bevel two blade that will be 200 grains.

heres a question, what is the deal with the Extreme FOC.  If your arrows are tuned right you shouldnt have to worry about ExFOC because the arrow will already be flying straight.

Or is this just the decreasing margin of error and improving hunter success.  Such as wind, hitting a twig etc....

Widoweater,

I would read Dr. Ashby's reports for the full understanding of his testing.

The big advantage is better penetration especially with light draw weights.

Widow Eater,
though I second Chris, it is very easy to understand the benefits of high FOC when you imagine all steps of arrow impact in super-slow-motion.
With the tip connecting it faces negative acceleration. The nock (read: trailing part of arrow) can not follow imidiately because of mass inertia - hence, will bent the shaft. Like "archers paradox" in revers. The more mass at the rear, the more flex you'll get - wasting energy. A heavy head virtually pulls the arrow through, not so much depending on any "push" from the rest of the arrow.
I always say: "It is far easier to pull a carriage through the mud - then to push it ...!"
Hope I got the point accross with my English?!