I finally bought all of the arrow building gear and I'm about to start building and tuning some carbon arrows for the first time. I was just messing around tonight and I could not even get a 100 grain brass insert fully seated in the Heritage 250 shafts that I bought (without glue). Are they supposed to be that tight?

I thought I was going to ruin the insert or the shaft trying to get it out. I bought the inserts from Kustom King and the description said "Brass Converta point inserts for 5/16" Carbon/Vapor, 100 grain". Are these the wrong inserts for CX Heritage shafts? Thanks for the help,

Jeff

I had the same problem what I did was install a field point then put in a cordless drill and turn down the insert untill it fits good into shaft you can use a old file or plane old sandpapper and yes carbon express 250 are a little bit too small for brass inserts good luck and I think you will really like the high foc you get with inserts      

I used to use brass inserts until I started using broadhead adapters with broadheads to achive the same effect. I like the brass inserts all right but I little spendy. I know they would only fit into the arrows I bought them for. I had some similar arrows and they fit the same way as your describing.

Just did my first set of Beman MFX Carbons with the 100 grain Brass inserts. Some were a little tight as they neared being flush with the end of the shaft, but they did slide in fully with a little extra push.  So far all are within 2 grains of each other.

You may find that the problem is not the insert. Carbon shafts are sometimes inconsistent in wall thickness. The problem is in the manufacturing process and the layering of the carbon.

Sometimes those brass inserts fit alittle snug in CX their ID is .244 and Gold Tip and other 5/16" carbons ID is .246.What I did was take an old field point and mount in a drill.And then thread on the insert and sand them down alittle to fit,it usally doesn't take much sanding.

Never had a problem getting brass inserts in any CX shaft using hot melt...

Thanks guys. I'll try the sanding method using a drill. I just couldn't believe how tight they were. I'm worried about putting alot of stress on the inside of the shaft if I force them in. If I used them like they are, I don't think I would even bother with adhesive.

Haven't had that problem, though I use a prep tool on the inside of the shaft prior to installing.  It roughens up the surface, and likely removes any irregularities.  Makes for a better bond in my opinion.

It sounds like these particular inserts are for Vapor arrows, but I assumed that they would fit any 5/16" carbon arrow. The only other options on the Kustom King site were for V-MaxxVapor or Beman/Axis. Maybe none of these inserts work with carbon express.

Maybe I should call Kustom King and see what they say. I'd rather just buy new ones that fit properly than have to sand down the dozen I have. I'd hate to take too much off and then have them not align properly.

You could take the head of a .22 caliber roll it until you have the diameter of the shaft, use epoxy and a small rod and push it into the shaft until it comes to the back of the insert.  They are 40 gr. ea.


Pastor Carl

Those are the correct ones for your Heritage shafts

BobW

I use a small rat tail file and work the inside of the shaft alittle.  Set the insert in, add glue and push it against the table to seat, and if need be give it a rap with a plastic mallet. Did a dozen today, 50's and 100's.

Make sure you swab out the inside of the shaft with at least alcohol so the glue will bond good.

I use the 100 grain inserts, with super glue. Lightly sand the insert and the inside of the shaft. Wipe clean and glue. Make sure once you start the insert into the shaft that you go all the way or it will permanently for all time glue into place halfway in. dont that and had to throw that one out.

Have not had any problem at all with it coming loose, and much easier and faster than the epoxies, in my opinion.