Hello all,


  I am taking the plunge.  I want to try my hand at shooting carbons out of my bow.  I need some advice on where to start.

I am shooting a 53#@28 Bear Super Kodiac,  one of the black beauties from the early 70's.

What kind of carbon do I need?

Does anyone shoot carbons from a bow comparible to this one?

When choosing an arrow what makes you choose the size of the weight insert up front?

I have access to a fine bow shop here in Winston-Salem,  they have a nice shooting range in the store.  I plan on going and spending the day with one of the fellows and hammering out the tiny details.  But I need to know where to start.


Cant wait to hear,

Brian Gillispie

Hie Brian,
I shoot a 53# @ 26" Super kodiak.  I started w/CX 250's but now will probably move to 150's.   I leave them long about 28.5" w/200 grains up front but they are still a little stiff, they fly fine but I just want to see what 150's do.    Joe

PS Some one with a lot more knowledge will be along soon, I'm sure to help you out.  Joe

Hey Joe,


  How does the 250's act being stiff.  What characteristics are you expecting from the 150's.  do you expect the length to change or the weight up front?

Thanks,

Brian Gillispie

I am shooting a Quillian Patriot at 56# I am shooting CX heritage 150's at 29.5 inches with alum. inserts and a 145 gr. point and they are shooting good but they are on the light side for me at 485 gr. If I go to a heavier insert to get a heavier total arrow weight I will have to go to the 250's.

If you want the wood grain look you can go with GT Traditonal 35/55 or CX Heritage 150's.   Less expensive are the black GT Hunter 35/55 and the CX Rebel 45/60's.

I love my gold tips traditionals. They look like wood and shoot great. I would suggest the 3555's but my dad shoots 5575's out of his and they throw darts. The best place to get them is Sipsey River call 205.387.2388 and ask for John. They sell seconds with slight blemish marks for only $40 a dozen!!! Can't beat it with a stick and you can afford to try a few different spine weights. that way. He will sell by the half dozen as well. Good Luck bareshafting tuning.

Another vote for Goldtips.  The 35/55sshould work fine.  Just try different tip weights until you find what flies best.  Good luck.

I shoot the GT 35/55's on a cut to center longbow that I pull 54# @26, with the standard aluminum inserts and 200 grain points.  My arrows are 28" long and according to everything I read they should be way too stiff.  I added some 3/16 polyester rope to add weight and they fly excellent and weigh 560 grains.  just my 2 cents.  Mark

I would try the GT 3555's they are a little weaker than the CX 150's. Just make sure you cut them down slowly ( 1/4" at a time) until you get it flying good. From my experience the carbons are way stiffer than what most arrow charts list(Esp the CX's). Good luck!

I shoot GT 35/55's also. They are tough arrows! I had a dozen last me almost two years! Most of the ones that were gone were lost,not broken. You might have to reglue a few inserts now and then, if your hitting some hard stumps, but that is a small price to pay. Like others said, Keep em on the longer side and cut them down bit by bit till you get em flying true.

JL

Another neat thing about Gold Tips is you can buy weights to fine tune the arrow to your bow.  Look in the Black Widow catalogue for the weights for both ends of the arrow.  You can really Dial in with this system.

Hey Brian
Sorry it took so long to get back to you.  My 250's shoot well and have a nice weight 542 grain. I just get a slight tear when I paper tune and I would like to try and get rid of that.  Maybe being a little to picky.  I like my CX's I've shot GT's also and find the Cx"s to be much more durable.  If you do a search there was a post not to long ago comparing GT's and CX's.  This all my opinion though so that and a $1 will get you a Coke.  Joe

Heritage 150 cut to 29.5"s with 200 grains up front will fly well, ya may need a tad more up front than that but ya will be close.Shawn