I have purchased 2 dozen( at seperate times). The first dozen were great and I killed 3 deer--2 whitetail and I mule deer--and 1 black bear with them, all complete passthru, and I have reused 3 of them...broke the one on the bear..hit a rock after it went thru...the second dozen didn't shooot nearly as well for some reason.  I did shoot a whitetail with one and the arrow did not pass thru on a relatively close shot and I ultimately never found the deer--it was a well placrd shot too..damn!!.  Anyway, there is my 2 cents worth.

I dont presently own any Grizzly Sticks, but hunted moose with a guy this past fall that was shooting them.

He was shooting a 70# recurve with Grizzly Stiks that weighed in the nieghborhood of 750 gr, tipped with a Woodsman broadhead.

I shot a couple of his arrows in practice and they were a bit stiff for my bow, but shot pretty well.

Anyway, he hit a bull moose in the front leg bone (evidently the bull took a step as he released). Obviously, he didnt get a lot of penetration. When we took up the trail, we found his arrow. The broadhead totally came apart. There were just remnants of two of the blades left. The arrow, on the other hand, is still in his quiver with a new head on it. It didnt phase it one bit.

The moral of this story is that I was quite impressed with the durability of these shafts, but not so much with the head. Anything that can stand up to that kind of impact, is probably worth the price.

BP

Tim and Cajuntec:

Thanks for taking the time to make such thorough responses. Regarding the GTs, Cajuntec: mine are vintage 2007. It's not that I was dissatisfied with them, but after a full season of day to day usage (practice and hunting), in my opinion, they are no more durable than the XX78 2216s which I've used for fifteen plus years. For the extra money, I expected more durability out of the GTs- and I just didn't see it. Could be just a bad period in the history of the GTs manufacturing process.

Tomorrow I intend to order a test pack from ABS- one Sitka and one Alaskan. If I can get the finished arrow anywhere above, say, 580 grains, that should be plenty of "wallop" out of my menacing 52# recurve and longbow. I am hopeful that I'll be able to hunt with the same arrow out of both bows by using an Eskimo glued to different weight broadhead adaptors.

Tim- some day I hope to be able to SQUAT 75#s. My only chance of pulling 75#s would be to pull a 37 1/2# bow twice...  

     

p.s.   Tim, Jay's Sporting Goods in Clare is my Mecca. Perhaps one day when I'm up that way we can fling a few arrows and also talk dogs.

QuoteOriginally posted by Labs4me:
Tim and Cajuntec:

Thanks for taking the time to make such thorough responses. Regarding the GTs, Cajuntec: mine are vintage 2007. It's not that I was dissatisfied with them, but after a full season of day to day usage (practice and hunting), in my opinion, they are no more durable than the XX78 2216s which I've used for fifteen plus years. For the extra money, I expected more durability out of the GTs- and I just didn't see it. Could be just a bad period in the history of the GTs manufacturing process.

Tomorrow I intend to order a test pack from ABS- one Sitka and one Alaskan. If I can get the finished arrow anywhere above, say, 580 grains, that should be plenty of "wallop" out of my menacing 52# recurve and longbow. I am hopeful that I'll be able to hunt with the same arrow out of both bows by using an Eskimo glued to different weight broadhead adaptors.

Tim- some day I hope to be able to SQUAT 75#s. My only chance of pulling 75#s would be to pull a 37 1/2# bow twice...  

           

p.s.   Tim, Jay's Sporting Goods in Clare is my Mecca. Perhaps one day when I'm up that way we can fling a few arrows and also talk dogs.

No problem on the help. I was going to suggest the Test Packs.......

I am almost certain the Alaskans are going to work. Just remember in these shafts its all about total arrow weight you are looking for more than GPI or your bows weight.

Ed will hook you up!

Tim

back to home...

nock fitting:
- at the right extremity one can see that the rod of the tool is contacting the inside nock's cone end
- at the left side one can see the 2mm lacking  to the nock's insert for filling completly the inside nock's cone




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broadhead insert diameter versus shaft diameter

 

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Foudarme----instead of attempting to publicly attack a good product, why not just shoot something else? It really is that easy, each person has their personal preferences and your preference obviously isn't Grizzly Stiks. No sense raking a guy across the coals just because you personally don't like his product.

Just a thought.

my goal is not to attack this good product, much more if it is so good, nobody will be scared by what I am doing ...for me I am just explaining by pictures what are the meaning of my remarks, cause for some they were like lies...everybody is free to like these shafts or not...don't worry for me, I shoot something else, but there was an initial  question and there is my illustrated answer.

shaft diameter...0.7mm larger than insert

 


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eclipse ferule's diameter (9.32mm) vs shaft diameter (9.7mm)...

 

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spine differences...
shaft one stiff side (not selected shaft, first taken among a dozen): 0.120 deflection = 216lb

 

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OK, I've had about enough.  I've reported this to the board administrators.  Hopefully, this will come to an end shortly.

All the best,
Glenn

get those pictures smaller.

shaft 2, stiff side...not perticulerly selected, another shaft among the same dozen...



pics too big, post smaller next time please.

OK, OK....I'm not a big fan of grizzly sticks either....but I think your point has been made, and the rebuttles have been posted. Now it's just a peepee contest...we don't have those here.