Right now I'm shooting 31" 2018's with 175grns up front from a 50# at 30" St.Charles Thunderbird recurve,and 31" 2117's with 200grns up front from a 50# at 30" Adcock ACS longbow. Total arrow weight for the 2018's is 602gr and 632gr for the 2117's.

One of the premiere knowledgeable earlier TG contributors 'O.L.Adcock" stated that the perfect arrow would have all the weight up front.

Dr Ashby, the lone leading penetration authority on penetration based on his numerous in depth scientific studies on live game have proven time and time again that more wt up front pays significant dividends.

One's own personal adequate testing will build your own confidence which may prove critical in the state of mind required at the moment of the actual shot execution.

I currently shoot 150 grain up front with a standard insert.

I don't like too much FOC since your arrow becomes less aerodynamic and will drop much steeper and since the back of the arrow is lighter it can "tail wag" in windy conditions.

This is not a problem within 25 yards but I also shoot at longer distances as well (not hunting).

100 grain insert plus 100-145 grain tip depending on the bow and arrow set up.

250 gns up front on a 31" CX heritage 250 out of a 50#@28" tall tines recurve drawn to 30". Although I'm considering shortening the shaft about half an inch and adding about 50 gns more to the tip. We'll see...

Cheers!

An Ultra EFOC arrow will correct itself in half the distance as compared to a normal FOC arrow.

Arrows of the same wt per physics fall at the same rate. Excessive drag caused by the enhanced amount of force on the fletching due to higher FOC's generate significant drag while the arrow is slowed and thus drops faster. Replace your current fletching on your normal or high FOC arrows with 7" fletch, then watch them drop.

A typical commercial jet is front loaded in order to be more specifically designed to travel from A to point B with the least amount of interference. A fighter jet is more center balanced and some to the point that they may have to be computer operated for both stability and maneuverability.

The choice remains with one's personal discretion.

I agree with Friend, good point on fletching size. IMHO a properly built uefoc arrow will drop less at further yardages due to quicker stabilization loosing less energy than normal foc.

Hi there. First post here.

I just picked up some GT Traditionals .400 spine cut to 31 inches with standard insert and 125g points. Going to go shoot them for the first time tonight.

Bow setup is a PSE Mustang 40# @28". I draw 30", so roughly 45# draw. A quick calculation of this arrow setup gives me a weight of around 460 grains (with standard knock, 3- 5 inch shield cut feathers and 7"wraps), which works out to 10.124 gpp. My question is: If I want to increase weight and FOC, how much more would you suggest? Thinking about Dr. Ashby's research and will likely be hunting (for the first time) with this bow and possibly these arrows in the fall.

First post, long time lurker, just getting back into my recurve after a 20 year break.
I was just paper tuning and think I've found a set up my bow likes.
49@27 zipper, drawn to 27"
gold tip 500 cut to 29.5"
100gr insert
200gr point
i calculated about 554 gr. give or take, so I'm running about 300gr up front

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Have never shot carbon or an aluminum arrows, all wood, either Surewood Douglas Fir with 235 grains up front for pretty much everything other than Buffalo. Buffalo arrows are heavy Forester hardwoods with 335 grains on the pointy end. All with Woody weights as necessary and Grizzly two blade broadheads.
Best
Lex

Last year was just a 180 grain head on a 1916 Legacy.
This year I'm planning on switching to carbons.  Right now 100 grain insert with a 250 grain head on a Gold Tip XT 35/55.  My main bow is a Black Widow recurve 40# @ 24.5" draw

I shoot a 42 pound Toelke whip and was using 200 grains up front w 600 s.  This put me around 13gpp and the arrow really took a dive past 20 yds.  I recently changed to a well tuned . 670 arrow w 125 up front.  All of a sudden the longer shots got easier-- and I'm still over 10 gpp.

Like others have stated, I let the bow/arrow tuning dictate what weight head I'm shooting.

Currently shooting two setups, one arrow with 125g up front and a stiffer shaft with a 175g on the front.

Bringing back an old thread here but this is my setup.
Great Northern shadow 64"
55#@28" drawing 27.5"
Currently using full length axis traditional 400 spine
Standard hit insert
Goldtip ballistic collar
300 grain tips. Comes out to roughly 334 grains up front. Getting ready to play with some 400 spine victory rip shafts and brass hits with ballistic collars or the stainless half outs from goldtip with ballistic collars and 300 grain heads. Will have to trim the length down to tune but ive got room to work with it.

Ben Pearson Hunter #45 - 150 + standard insert 9.5 gpp
Samick Sage #55 - 175 + standard insert 9 gpp
Paul Bunyan #50 - 200 + standard insert 9.5 gpp
Bear Cub longbow #64 - 250 + standard insert 8.5 gpp

200 grain grizzly
100 grain brass insert
125 grain steel bh adapter
full length ICS beman 340

Bob lee 60lbs at 28". I pull close to 29"

I love my set up.

125 gr to 135 gr for me on a 460 to 480 gr wood shaft. 600ish total.

As long as I end up with a 550-600 gr arrow I don't much care.  With a 30.5-31 draw I can't be picky on the shafts I shoot.  Most of the time it's in the 300 spine range and 150-250 up front.

200 + gr on wood shafts.