Has anyone played with them? I haven't found a brass insert for them yet but I am assuming that the strength of the half in half out insert with a ballistic collar kind of does away with the need for that. I'm debating between these and the their new traditional arrow, but I cannot seem to get the traditional into a weight category that I want. I'm attempting to get between 9-10 gpp from a 51@28 drawn to 29. dryad orion with standard single carbon longbow limbs. Thanks for any help. I've been shooting hill style bows for a while and they all liked a really heavy arrow but I'm trying to go a little lighter and increasing my effective range a bit.

I'm not sure why GT made the traditional classics a heavier GPI? You have to lighten up on the broadhead to get a normal weight finished arrow. In general that means thinner blades, less length and sharper angle of approach, and weaker connections. There are exceptions. No need to argue the details or how someone won't even notice the slower arrow. Just saying it seems like the fad is stiffer, lighter shafts. I have not heard of anyone doing a revue on these yet. They should have sold a lot of them by now. I think the ID is .204. Same as Easton Axis.

No they are .166" ID

My bad,
I thought he was referring to the Traditional. The pierce are lighter.
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I agree with you Tedd. I'm not trying to go crazy with the FOC thing. I will get that ramped up when I get heavier limbs this summer in preparation for my first elk trip in the fall. If I want to use 150 grain heads with the new gold tips I end up with an arrow that is pushing 600 grns and although I understand that it is effective I don't need it for whitetail and I want  little flatter shooting setup.