hot melt

nhbuck1 · July 26, 2016, 03:11:00 PM

anyone use hot melt for standard inserts for screw in inserts? how do you do the procedure?

Shadowhnter · July 26, 2016, 03:23:00 PM

You mean the arrow insert? Or one going into a point/broadhead?

nhbuck1 · July 26, 2016, 03:42:00 PM

arrow insert

highlow · July 26, 2016, 05:40:00 PM

Very easy. Make sure the inside of the shaft is clean. I use a Q-tip and swab with isopropyl alcohol. Screw a field point in to the insert. Heat the insert over a flame (I use the stove), soften the hot melt slightly against the flame and apply to the insert. I then quickly and slightly reheat the hot melt covered insert and slide it in the shaft. I keep the cold water running in the sink and cool the insert end by placing in the cold water stream. Done. Usually have to remove some of the hot melt as the excess squeezes out when the insert is pushed in.

stagetek · July 26, 2016, 05:45:00 PM

Great stuff as long as carbon isn't involved. I guess it can be used on carbon arrows, but my first, and last attempt doing it was a disaster.

katman · July 26, 2016, 06:19:00 PM

I prefer denatured alcohol over isopropyl as the later has oil in it. Clean inside of shaft and insert prior to installation.

Using hot melt stick from Big Jim on carbon for several years with out incident, installation and removal. Quick cooling dipping in a cup of water lessens chance of damaging shaft.

Bladepeek · July 26, 2016, 06:25:00 PM

stagetek, that's the only thing I use on my carbons. Since I switched to the low-temp hot melt glue from Big Jim instead of the hardware store stuff, I have had no problems at all. I screw a tip into the insert and hold the tip in my fingers. Heat the insert with a propane torch just until the glue will flow on it. I can still hold the tip in my fingers - it stays that cool. The stuff seems to be extremely shock resistant, sticks like crazy and doesn't damage the arrow because of the low heat involved.

stagetek · July 26, 2016, 06:41:00 PM

The low temp. seems to be the way to go then. Thanks.

Harmless · July 26, 2016, 06:49:00 PM

Been using hot melt for 20 years, never and I mean never had a insert pull out!

Stump73 · July 26, 2016, 08:37:00 PM

BigJim hot melt is what I use don't have a problem installing or removing inserts.

damascusdave · July 27, 2016, 12:36:00 AM

I am fortunate to still have a stick of the old Bohning Ferrule Tite with the grooves...I use it for everything including outserts on my Widowmaker arrows

DDave

shankspony · July 27, 2016, 03:50:00 AM

Can I ask what the issue around hot melt and carbon is?

I have been useing it on carbons for ages even though I know its not recommended, yet have not had a problem.
Is there something I need to keep an eye out for?

katman · July 27, 2016, 06:55:00 AM

Getting the shaft to hot can weaken the resins and severely weaken the shaft.

July 27, 2016, 08:58:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by shed hunter:
BigJim hot melt is what I use don't have a problem installing or removing inserts.

This^^^^^^

I only use alcohol on a QTip to wipe out the shaft after cutting. I do not clean the insert at all. I have never lost an insert using Big Jim's Quick Stick hot melt.

Bisch

nhbuck1 · July 27, 2016, 11:16:00 AM

So its OK on carbons?

nhbuck1 · July 27, 2016, 11:17:00 AM

So its OK on carbons?

Harmless · July 27, 2016, 11:48:00 AM

yes, after cutting I clean the inside of the carbon shaft with acetone, I clean the insert with acetone, screw a field tip into the insert, hold the field tip with pliers and heat with a small propane torch, not to hot just enough to melt the hot melt, slide the insert into the shaft and rotate it around 3 or 4 time to evenly distribute the glue, dip in cool water..