I am interested in people's opinions on this. My question is.....should I have expected better?

I purchased 2 packs of Grizzlystik Monarch 2 blade 200gr broadheads. They cost $120 for a 3 pack....so about $40 each. Grizzlystik's entire marketing strategy is based around ashby research, superior penetration and the superior quality of their products.

My broadheads all have machining grooves from tip to tail, running at 90degrees to the direction of travel on both sides. Therefore totally working against penetration.

I have no doubt they will the the job in any case.

Maybe you should shoot something with them before you judge them

As I said I am sure they will do the job. The question is at $40 per head would you expect them to have a better finish to maximise penetration?

My opinion is that such a tiny groove will have basically no affect on penetration, so in that regard, I don't think you should expect more.  Then again, just because something cost more doesn't mean it will do a better job than a less expensive alternative.  Good luck with them.  I hope you plan on running them through  something big and tough .

Can you post a photo so we can see the grooves?

http://www.alaskabowhunting.com/Monarch-200-Single-Bevel-Broadheads-3-Pack-P375C71.aspx

QuoteOriginally posted by pdk25:
 http://www.alaskabowhunting.com/Monarch-200-Single-Bevel-Broadheads-3-Pack-P375C71.aspx  

Can't see any grooves in the link photo....

QuoteOriginally posted by Haydenj7:
As I said I am sure they will do the job. The question is at $40 per head would you expect them to have a better finish to maximise penetration?

For that price I would expect them to be polished and flawless.

Here is a pic. Note the grooves extend to the cutting blade also, so if you pass it through the single bevel touch up sharpener it makes a mess of the edge. I have ended up resharpening them all with a spyderco sharpener so that the cutting edge is not cerated.

 

That does not look like a long 3to1 blade profile  advocated by Ashby

If you are not happy with the product for the price you paid then return it. At that premium price I would expect a more finished product.

This is for Hyedenj7, please don't mistake this for being judgmental, but what is the theory behind $40 a pc broadhead when $5  a pc broadheads will kill as quickly and every bit as dead. And then modifying them,I'm baffled.I have used many, many different broadheads and have gone with what works best for the set up that was being shot.I appreciate you want the best equip to do the best job possible, I applaud that. But how much of this is advertisement hype. Are the archery companies playing us for fools??

Those machine marks certainly look to me like they are part of the design, very uniform...did you contact the company to ask about that?

DDave

On what do you base your contention that the machined grooves would work against penetration...seems to me that they reduce the effective surface friction area and might very well aid penetration...from the pictures they look like a top quality product to me, just a bit different that we might be used to

DDave

i also use other broadheads that are significantly cheaper....and they work great. I just thought I would give these a try and was surprised at the grooves.

Will the grooves reduce friction? Good point....maybe they do?

With regards to modding them. I shot a couple quite a bit to see how they flew. Then thought I best touch them up prior to a hunt, when touching up I used the small tool they sell for touch ups to single bevels from grizstik and found that it didn't agree with the cerated edge. Hence my resharpening. Just to explain.

This should not happen for $40/ea !!


http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h101/tradtusker/305239_10150374197094389_642889388_8429639_1696978763_n_zps9fb00d8c.jpg

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Wow...that is an expensive broadhead.

I think those ribs are probably there on purpose, possibly strengthening the ferrule. I hear your point though, about friction. I agree with you.

It's puzzling to me though.....I have a friend who is a big advocate of those heads. He was showing me how my Ace heads wouldn't work because of a few seams in them....  

I couldn't see them before.  It is hard to understand why the cutting edge isn't polished, but as far as the ferrule, I really can't see that having any meaningful effect on penetration. Really think the blade should have a polished surface like the stuff heads.

The grooves on the ferrule are leftover from the machining process, unpolished. The edge is a rough grind. Sure wouldn't pay $40 for that.