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HH bug got me ... Part One!

Started by longbowben, January 07, 2011, 01:08:00 PM

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Ben Maher

I usually use a tab or bare fingers but if using a glove it'll be an American Leathers Buffalo. Its a great glove and very well made .
" All that is gold does not glitter , not all those who wander are lost "
J.R.R TOLKIEN

Ron LaClair

This is me with Howards personal glove in 1980. I've got it on my left hand and you can see that the cup on my index finger doesn't fit...it's a right hand glove.

   
We live in the present, we dream of the future, but we learn eternal truths from the past
When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice.
Life is like a wet sponge, you gotta squeeze it until you get every drop it has to offer

Nate Steen .

I use a Hill style glove most of the time...like the inserts.  However, the Bigshot is a great glove, great guy to deal with at American Leathers, and if you like inserts, the Crossover is a good glove also...

some guys have a problem with the Hill style gloves slipping off your fingers too easily...the old Schulz trick was to use baseball rosin on the fingers, which transferred to the leather stall and held the stalls tight....I now prefer to moisten my fingers in my mouth and slip into the glove while wet....the leather will stick very well to your finger as the finger dries  (that's an old trick from Saxton Pope!)

Rob DiStefano

no way would i ever use a glove - i make my own thin latigo leather tab that simply works best for me.  i know guys using gloves that are struggling to achieve a good release but won't change 'cause "howard used a glove".    :rolleyes:     to each their own.  i'll take function over form any day.  :D
IAM ~ The only government I trust is my .45-70 & my Ol' Brown Bess

ChrisM

I have tried a tab and on my recurve I can use one but the hill and its weight I tend to "grip the string" too much and pull the arrow off of the shelf.  Just can't have a relaxed hand.  I may just be mental been using a glove for so long that they are like my "Binki"
Gods greatest command:  Love your neighbor as you love yourself.

Overspined

I like a big shot glove, but have to try on a bunch of them before I find one that will fit. The stalls are usually too long. I have short fat fingers. I end up buying a medium and using liberal amounts of pitch blend on my fingers and they fit rather quickly, they stretch a little. I guess I like damascus as well, but don't like how the sometimes feel a little sloppy, the big shot always feels tight.

Okie man

I like the Bateman cordovan glove with the inserts. I have used it almost daily since last October and it is holding up well.  The Deluxe Hill glove grooved in a few months. If the Bateman wears out I will try the American Leathers glove with inserts.  The elastic on the back looks like it will solve the problem of the finger stalls slipping.
When the moment of truth arrives, the time for preparation has passed

2treks

Yeh Matt,you do seem to have a strangly shaped hand that seems just right for holding a Hill bow, How you been anyhow?
I may try a tab one day but I don't know how they are suposed to fit. I looked in the new Lancasters BOOK and they have about 10,00 to choose from. I still have my glove.
Chuck
C.A.Deshler
United States Navy.
1986-1990


"Our greatest fear should not be of failure but of succeeding at things in life that don't really matter."
~ Francis Chan

Overspined

Hi Chuck,

Doing well, shooting in the evenings a bit but very busy with a new job.  I have to make time for getting the arrows tuned for animals so I have begun making final adjustments. I really like the new Griz El Grande heads, they've improved the grind, and the overall head and they should be a snap to sharpen now.

I bought Patrick's hill Robin Hood and it is dual shelf, so my back has been feeling better because I can work both sides a little easier! I wish my form right handed was as good as it is lefty...

How are things going for you this summer?

2treks

Good! I need to shoot lefty also to keep lined up, I have been shooting alot,I have a new design That I have been testing for about 100-200 shots per day, and it is coming along nice but my back and neck are cracklin. You will see it at GLLI. I quite sure you will like it, It has one of them grips you like.
C.A.Deshler
United States Navy.
1986-1990


"Our greatest fear should not be of failure but of succeeding at things in life that don't really matter."
~ Francis Chan

toddster

Thank you Ron for sharing with us, means alot to me and nathan too.

Ron LaClair

You're welcome Todd, I enjoy sharing with everyone.

As for a tab verses a glove, it's a personal thing. When I was shooting heavy bows 75# up to over 100# I used a Hill style glove with the stays in the face of the finger stalls. This was the best style for finger protection. Now that I shoot lighter weight bows 45 to 55# I like a tab.

I use to put string wax in the finger stalls to keep them on my fingers. The old string wax that I use to make was the Pope and Young formula of bees wax and resin, the resin making it stick. Still it was a constant habit to sometimes before a shot to tap the ends of the fingers to seat the glove down on the fingers.

In this old video clip from 1981 you can see me do that a couple times. This clip was shot for the TV show, "Michigan Outdoors". The target was a steel Bionic bear with a 8" circle cut out of the kill zone. The stake in front of me was 15yds so I was shooting from about 18yds, demonstrating the versatility of the longbow. The bow as I recall was a Ron Maulding Big Horn 70", 70# bow

http://www.tradgang.com/videos/ronlaclair/ronl-2.wmv
We live in the present, we dream of the future, but we learn eternal truths from the past
When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice.
Life is like a wet sponge, you gotta squeeze it until you get every drop it has to offer

2treks

Nice shooting Ron, I sometimes wonder how big your box of memories really is. You been doing it along time buddy. And just so you know,i give Brian Cole and You the credit(blame) for kicking me down the trail I have taken.
THANK YOU.
CTT
C.A.Deshler
United States Navy.
1986-1990


"Our greatest fear should not be of failure but of succeeding at things in life that don't really matter."
~ Francis Chan

Ron LaClair

Thanks Chuck, I'll pass that on to Brian. He's down in Nashville right now makin music..

My "Box of memories" is pretty full but every once and a while when I shake it up something from the past comes to the top..   :readit:  

Hey, it's all about new challenges and havin fun, right?...   :dunno:
We live in the present, we dream of the future, but we learn eternal truths from the past
When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice.
Life is like a wet sponge, you gotta squeeze it until you get every drop it has to offer

dragonheart

You go for that one Mr. Laclair!  That would be awesome.  If you could have the grip like the John Lee classic you showed in the picture, straight, narrow, and wider belly to back maybe custom sized by hand, that would be the ticket.  Maybe just a snid-bit of string-follow? straight? reflexed?  I bet the your wheels are turnin.

Burn the spot,

Jeff
Longbows & Short Shots

ChrisM

Great idea.  I bet it would be second to none
Gods greatest command:  Love your neighbor as you love yourself.

David Mitchell

Uh oh!  :eek:  I better start saving some money!
The years accumulate on old friendships like tree rings, during which time a kind of unspoken care and loyalty accrue between men.

tg2nd

QuoteOriginally posted by Rob DiStefano:
no way would i ever use a glove - i make my own thin latigo leather tab that simply works best for me.  i know guys using gloves that are struggling to achieve a good release but won't change 'cause "howard used a glove".     :rolleyes:      to each their own.  i'll take function over form any day.   :D  
But Rob, that's the way it goes: "to each their own"
I'd never use a Tab. Gloves simply work best for me.
So to all: just try what fit's best for Y O U !!!
German by birth, Bavarian by the grace of god

Rob DiStefano

QuoteOriginally posted by tg2nd:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by Rob DiStefano:
no way would i ever use a glove - i make my own thin latigo leather tab that simply works best for me.  i know guys using gloves that are struggling to achieve a good release but won't change 'cause "howard used a glove".      :rolleyes:       to each their own.  i'll take function over form any day.    :D  
But Rob, that's the way it goes: "to each their own"
I'd never use a Tab. Gloves simply work best for me.
So to all: just try what fit's best for Y O U !!! [/b]
no "buts" needed, yer right on the money, it's all good, do what you want!  :D
IAM ~ The only government I trust is my .45-70 & my Ol' Brown Bess

xbmedic

QuoteOriginally posted by Ron LaClair:
 I've been talking to Gregg Coffey and there just may be a Hill style bow made by the Shrew Company sometime in the near future...    :readit:    

Hey, it's all about new challenges and havin fun, right?...    :dunno:  
I'm with you, David. I thought when I started building my own Hill style bows that I wouldn't have to save for another new bow. Now this!   ;)
Al Braun
Hilo, HI


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