HH bug got me ... Part One!

tradlongbow · February 11, 2011, 06:54:00 PM

Rob-

To answer your question, both bows are 68" long with a 28"draw,cocobola risers, one is 55# and the other is 50#'s. The difference is 5#'s and without using a chronograph the carmelized seems to be quicker as the arrow doesn't drop until I'm further away from the target. I usually buy my shafts between 340-360grain, but I haven't grain weighed these shafts yet.

I was just noticing a difference with the new bow that I'm very pleased with. The carmelized limbs seem a little stiffer almost like how carbon on the limbs of a bow feels. On another thread I asked Leatherneck what he thaught of his new bow with carmelized limbs, since he doesn't have another Hill to compare it with he couldn't make a comparison, but he did say that he is very happy with the bow.

My next bow will be a Tembo stringfollow with a carmelized limbs.

Darren

tradlongbow · February 11, 2011, 07:03:00 PM

Rob-

About 12years ago I had a bow made with the takedown sleeve and it was great for traveling. However, Whenever I drew the string back to anchor, you would hear the metal sleeves clicking. I tried everything from oil to wax, but it didn't help. I really like the hinge system much better that Vince uses on his Mohawks. I would check with Craig and see if he can use the hinge on a Hill, it might be a better way to go. You can always buy one and send it to him.

Darren

Rob DiStefano · February 11, 2011, 07:04:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by MikeM:
Rob I have 70" Hill take-downs. The upper limb includes the sleeve and is 39" the lower limb slips into the sleeve and is 35"

good scoop, thanx mike.

Rob DiStefano · February 11, 2011, 07:12:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by tradlongbow:
Rob-

About 12years ago I had a bow made with the takedown sleeve and it was great for traveling. However, Whenever I drew the string back to anchor, you would hear the metal sleeves clicking. I tried everything from oil to wax, but it didn't help. I really like the hinge system much better that Vince uses on his Mohawks. I would check with Craig and see if he can use the hinge on a Hill, it might be a better way to go. You can always buy one and send it to him.

Darren

yeah, all my 'hawks are connexion t/d's - what a great system.

i had a pac yes sleeve t/d, worked just fine, perfect fit - not loose or tight - but i do know sleeves can be a problem times.

i don't think i'd like the look of connexion hill, and the riser would need to be modified to accept the long hinge plates.

Rob DiStefano · February 11, 2011, 07:13:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by tradlongbow:
Rob-

To answer your question, both bows are 68" long with a 28"draw,cocobola risers, one is 55# and the other is 50#'s. The difference is 5#'s and without using a chronograph the carmelized seems to be quicker as the arrow doesn't drop until I'm further away from the target. I usually buy my shafts between 340-360grain, but I haven't grain weighed these shafts yet.

I was just noticing a difference with the new bow that I'm very pleased with. The carmelized limbs seem a little stiffer almost like how carbon on the limbs of a bow feels. On another thread I asked Leatherneck what he thaught of his new bow with carmelized limbs, since he doesn't have another Hill to compare it with he couldn't make a comparison, but he did say that he is very happy with the bow.

My next bow will be a Tembo stringfollow with a carmelized limbs.

Darren

ok, which weight bow has the caramelized limbs?

tradlongbow · February 11, 2011, 07:25:00 PM

Rob-

The new bow with the carmelized limbs is 50#. That's why I'm so impressed with it.

Darren

RC · February 11, 2011, 07:26:00 PM

I got some cedars for my Big 5 yesterday. The 2016`s shoot good ,the carbons shoot good....but the cedar wins out. I have not hunted with a wood arrow in several years but Its kinda drawing me. Gonna hunt Lord Willing tomorrow with the carbons I been shooting but some cedars and no mercy heads are gonna get tuned up.

To be longbows that jar out your teeth and ain`t suited for hunting just nostalgic this shore has been a long thread.....I ain`t a good speller by the way.RC

Rob DiStefano · February 11, 2011, 07:31:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by tradlongbow:
Rob-

The new bow with the carmelized limbs is 50#. That's why I'm so impressed with it.

Darren

the new big 5 w/caramelized string follow limbs is due in next week (?), 68", 50#@28" - but knowing that almost all hills are heavier than labeled, at my 29" it'll probably read closer to 55# on my digital scale.

real interested to see these limbs, for both the ambered boo and limbset.

Raging Water · February 11, 2011, 07:32:00 PM

Wood Arrows and Hill Bows just go together, nuff said.

Matt

Rob DiStefano · February 11, 2011, 07:34:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Raging Water:
Wood Arrows and Hill Bows just go together, nuff said.

Matt

+1

Wannabe1 · February 11, 2011, 07:44:00 PM

This may be true but, I gotta say something about my AD Trad Lites! They seem to shoot better than my wood shafts.

tradlongbow · February 11, 2011, 08:40:00 PM

Wannabe1-

I tried the AD lites many years ago when they first came out; they shot good, and I liked them but as I remember they were too expensive for me. How much do they go for these days?

Darren

Benny Nganabbarru · February 11, 2011, 08:45:00 PM

I still reckon Ben Maher owes us some pictures.

Wannabe1 · February 11, 2011, 08:54:00 PM

Darren, I'm still shooting the same dozen I got 5yrs ago. Just busted the nock on one yesterday with dang near my first robin hood. I got them cut to length, nocks and inserts installed and fletched. Not sure what they'd go for these days.

stik&string · February 11, 2011, 09:38:00 PM

QuoteTo be longbows that jar out your teeth and ain`t suited for hunting just nostalgic this shore has been a long thread

longbowben · February 11, 2011, 10:36:00 PM

Rob my 64" takedown has a bottom piece is 32" and the top is 36" .

WESTBROOK · February 12, 2011, 12:09:00 AM

Here ya go Rob, a Hill style with a connection hinge, dont even know its there.

February 12, 2011, 01:15:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by WESTBROOK:
Here ya go Rob, a Hill style with a connection hinge, dont even know its there.

I have been diggin' for info and pics on the connection. Rob posted a pic of one done that was not too beautiful, you could see the hinge poking out a bit which messed up the leather and I would think feel that thing every time you grabbed ahold of the grip...hence he mentions is concerns there...same as mine till I see your post...nice installation! I really like the concept of the :hinge" simple, solid. I hate the sleeves.

Maybe Rob will post that pic for us all to compare.

I ordered a bow from Craig a couple days ago and asked him if he ever did the hinge...response was "tried it once...didn't like how it turned out so I am sticking to the sleeve"

Westbrook, who did your hinge? I hope to find a competent bowyer to retro-fit my incoming bow. I would PM you about this but maybe everyone here interested in t/d systems can learn as well...if there is anything to learn.

Mudd · February 12, 2011, 01:24:00 AM

Awesome news on your order Tony!!

Tell me about it.

Inquiring minds want to know...lol

God bless,Mudd

February 12, 2011, 01:51:00 AM

Mudd! Its got to be 2:30am there!
You are as crazy as I am - fun isn't it?? HA!

Ok - I had made my decision last week to buy a Tembo but I could never get the concept of the Half Breed out of my mind. I know and can appreciate the bamboo but I also learned that Yew can also be efficient while adding a smoother feel. So I pulled the trigger on the Half Breed...thinking the combination of caramelized boo enveloping two lams of yew would be the ticket. I really am tired of the "hyper performance" thing...just want a good bow that'll dance with me..(I did not say beau)

Stats: Stringfollow 69" - 57@29", tillered at 30". Craig will mark the actual draw weight at 28" on the bow (thanks Rob...good advice)

Cocobolo riser, moderate locator, with black Elk stiched wrap.
Black glass on the back, clear glass on the belly over Caramelized Bamboo.
Bamboo limb tips (delicate)

A while back, you were wondering what happened to my handle "macatawa"....I gave it to my bow. Macatawa means "black water" in Native American tongue. I grew up on the shores of Lake Macatawa and, way back then I learned about Howard Hill...sweet memories.

Now....get some sleep! :cool: