Recent posts made me consider purchasing one. Would like to see some pictures in action

About 9 miles into the Bob Marshall wilderness.

John's 16 man on a ridgetop in Alaska.

A Colorado sheep hunt.

Ordering one myself in the coming months ! Going to get the 4 man or the sawtooth
Stuck horse where's the sheep?!

Go sawtooth over a 4.  Sawtooth will have a lot more usable space.  Sawtooth and 6 compare more favorable then the sawtooth and 4.

I am looking at the sawtooth after having the four man. I also like ti goat  wifi stoves.

For stoves check out,  www.edtsbackcountry.com

Ed designed and built the original Kifaru box stoves and now builds some ultralight titanium stoves that are super nice.  Plus he's an all around good guy.

Anybody ever dealt with a titanium goat vs a kifaru tipi

Only one I took was in my back yard when I was seam sealing it and burning in the stove. Sawtooth and medium box stove and I've already upgraded to the 18" cylinder stove for less weight to carry.

I've had some tigoat gear.  I didn't think it was quite as good as Kifaru.  They also have a reputation for spotty availability.  Seek outside gear is of comparable quality to kifaru.

So are the stoves a necessity with these or just a perk?

I'd rather save the weight and just build a normal fire

Can't have a normal fire in a nylon tipi.  Outside OK, inside not good.

So if you want heat inside a stove is pretty necessary.

Mike

When you have spent a long day going up, down and sideways, maybe got rained on, you will not regret that extra weight!

The other thing you will appreciate is a fly.  When it rains or snows too heavily to get out and Hunt, it's your escape from being cooped up in the tent.

Really like the looks of that Sawtooth with a stove, just need to find some extra $!

The stove is a game changer if the weather sucks. If you've been out in the cold, wet weather all day, it's at least a huge moral boost to fire up the stove and be able to go to sleep warm and dry. I find it best suited when you know your staying in one place for a while as its a bit of a hassle to take down and put up, and feeding the stove obviously takes some time away from finding game.

The stove is a must in some conditions.  We hunt Alaska for moose and I would not go without a stove.  Wet and cold are not good situations in the backcountry.  Our hunts are fly in so we have to account for every pound.  But the stove weight is in the must have pile every time.

Mike

Seek outside has a nice 8 man unit that holds up well in wind.  I do not have a stove for it, yet

QuoteOriginally posted by DXH:
So are the stoves a necessity with these or just a perk?

I'd rather save the weight and just build a normal fire

2.5lbs for the large cylinder stove, makes for a total of 7.5lbs'ish for Sawtooth and stove combo

Made the mistake of not taking a stove on an Idaho September elk hunt once.  Usually the weather is balmy, but this time it snowed, rained and sleeted for the first 9 days of the hunt.  Left the stove for the wall tent at home to save space.  My hunting partner and I and everything we owned was wet by the end of the third day.  All we had for heat inside the tent was a Coleman lantern.  Miserable.  I'll never leave home without it again.