Same here, I totally understand getting good penetration.  That said its a pig.  Sure the true monsters can slow down arrows some but there still soft in the arm pit.  

I'm not sure how many bow hogs I've taken, but it's over 100 (I know some guys have killed way more and have more knowledge on this).  I can tell you that only two of them were in the range where it was even worth talking about, being able to slow down an arrow.  (Slow down not stop)

I've killed about a dozen with 50 lbs recurves and 400 grain total weight arrows with heads in the 1.5 inch cut range and never had a issue.

My current setup is 53lbs at 29 inches and 500 grain total weight carbons with the widest broadheads I can buy.  They are hard enough to track crawling around in pig tunnels with good blood let alone an inch wide cut.

190 ribtek or 200 ace...

I also don't think you should put down a head to promote your favorite.  I've destroyed a few also just like most here that hunt and shoot a lot.  

What is you draw length?

While I agree with that sentiment, if nobody mentions the hen their are potential problems, then nobody will know about them.  I can think of a few high dollar broadhead that this applies to.

Grizzlies.

QuoteOriginally posted by pdk25:
While I agree with that sentiment, if nobody mentions the hen their are potential problems, then nobody will know about them.  I can think of a few high dollar broadhead that this applies to.

I was referring to the odd failure that ALL broadheads succumb to on occasion, rare occasion.  Not referring to a *rash* of problems like a lot of us know about certian heads.  And the Wensels are NOT in that *rash* category so those are the type of comments I was referring to. No need in giving them a bad rap when they certainly don't deserve it.

Agreed

I often hunt for the big old boars..  They are a completely different critter, imo..

Most of the time I find shots taken from ground level give better penetration than shots from trees..

They can be tough as hell..

The smaller eater pigs are as easy to penetrate as a deer...

QuoteOriginally posted by Jabar:
 

QuoteOriginally posted by pdk25:
While I agree with that sentiment, if nobody mentions the hen their are potential problems, then nobody will know about them.  I can think of a few high dollar broadhead that this applies to.

I was referring to the odd failure that ALL broadheads succumb to on occasion, rare occasion.  Not referring to a *rash* of problems like a lot of us know about certian heads.  And the Wensels are NOT in that *rash* category so those are the type of comments I was referring to. No need in giving them a bad rap when they certainly don't deserve it. [/b]

I apologize if it seemed like i was giving woodsman heads a bad rap but i wasn't. I shot them for years with excellent arrow flight and no penetration issues at all until shooting large hogs. With a 55# bow I had several of those heads fold up.... its real... it happened. I think the Grizzly heads are much tougher because of the solid fin....

I still love woodsman broadheads & i got a bunch of them too. I just wont use them on pigs or elk again.

My hog experience is pretty limited, but I've taken a few.  I'm not a good enuf shot to find the soft spot from much distance and learned last year just how tough the shield can be.  The hog pictured below was taken with a 200 gr Grizzly Instinct 3 blade on a Surewood Fir shaft from a 50 lb Toelke Whip.  He made it about 60 yds with an ok bloodtrail, but no exit.  This year I'll likely be shooting Grizzly Kodiak 235 gr SB 2 blades.  I really want 2 holes, and the Kodiaks have performed very well for me on deer.

 
 
 

Terry, you shootin the original 125 woodsman on an adapter?

Yes....from bunnies to bison.

Thought you were a Delta man, lol...

I am 90% 0f the time.    

Somehow I missed it....nice hog fletcher!!!

I have a dozen 3 Blade Instincs ordered.

love the wensel woodsman - tough 'n' durable, easy to sharpen to a razor edge by literally anyone with a decent flat file, and they fly real nice out of most any trad bow.

i kilt a hog with this one and terry found the arrow a year later.  notice how the bugs ate the vanes of the fletching and how the fletch taped bases were still stuck firmly to the shaft.  that head cleaned right up and was put back into service.  

 

 

 

Somehow I manage to find a lot of other folks arrows.  Not sure how that happens.

And that was a dandy hog Rob!!!

I'll take that non-answer as a zero.    :rolleyes:

In my opinion you can't go wrong with the Ace Standard. I would recommend any of the Ace heads. They are a great broadhead at real good price.