Serving Material

Scattergun2570 · October 12, 2015, 04:23:00 PM

Is Diamondback and Halo basically the same thing,or are there differences?

LBR · October 12, 2015, 04:29:00 PM

If I remember correctly, Diamondback is a sheath over a core. Halo is 100% braided Spectra.

If that is the case, no comparison IMO. Halo is very tough and very slick. The closest materials to Halo are BCY's Power Grip (not as slick, contains some nylon) and Angel Majesty serving from Japan.

Scattergun2570 · October 12, 2015, 04:44:00 PM

Which one do you believe works best for tying an adjustable knocking point?

October 12, 2015, 04:58:00 PM

I use Halo for my serving, and tie my nocking points with BCY nock tying thread.

Bisch

LBR · October 12, 2015, 04:59:00 PM

BCY nock tying thread, or a larger size Halo.

Scattergun2570 · October 12, 2015, 05:00:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
I use Halo for my serving, and tie my nocking points with BCY nock tying thread.

Bisch

and what diameter is that?

Scattergun2570 · October 12, 2015, 05:08:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by LBR:
If I remember correctly, Diamondback is a sheath over a core. Halo is 100% braided Spectra.

If that is the case, no comparison IMO. Halo is very tough and very slick. The closest materials to Halo are BCY's Power Grip (not as slick, contains some nylon) and Angel Majesty serving from Japan.

I am watching Rick ******s video,,for the Whip Knot..adjustable,,and he is suggesting Diamondback..

October 12, 2015, 05:41:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Scattergun2570:

QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
I use Halo for my serving, and tie my nocking points with BCY nock tying thread.

Bisch
and what diameter is that? [/b]

My Halo serving is .024. I have no clue what diameter the BCY Nock tying thread is, but it works great for my nocking points!

Bisch

Hermon · October 12, 2015, 05:50:00 PM

BCY website says their nock thread is .020"

LBR · October 12, 2015, 08:55:00 PM

You can get Halo up to .030, Power Grip up to .032, if you like the bigger stuff.

Truth be known, you can use most any serving thread if you tie it correctly. I'm partial to BCY myself.

Scattergun2570 · October 13, 2015, 01:42:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by LBR:
You can get Halo up to .030, Power Grip up to .032, if you like the bigger stuff.

Truth be known, you can use most any serving thread if you tie it correctly. I'm partial to BCY myself.

And what do you believe to be the correct way?

katman · October 13, 2015, 06:12:00 AM

I really like the nail knot, also called whip knot.

I find using a larger diameter material for knock point allows for the knot to be twisted up or down a lot easier. Once tuned tack it down like Rick suggests. I use the next size up serving material I have than what serving on string is.

October 13, 2015, 08:59:00 AM

I tie my nocking points on using the alternating half hitch method. run the material under the string and tie a half hitch on top, then wrap ends around string and tie a half hitch on bottom. Repeat. the 5th half hitch will be on top of the string. Finish it off with another half hitch which creates a square knot. Trim off ends and burn together with lighter.

I have also used the nail knot, and it works fine too. I just learned using the half hitch method, and it is more comfortable to me.

Bisch

DanielB89 · October 13, 2015, 09:07:00 AM

i'll chime in,

I think that BCY's PowerGrip is my "go to" for tying on string nocks. One of the most important factor when tying on string nock(ESPECIALLY ADJUSTABLE) is that the nocking point be of the same diameter or larger.

I personally don't like halo for nocking points. I want something that stays round, even under tension, and halo lays flat. I think it grips better staying round.

this is my opinion, so take its for what its worth.

October 13, 2015, 10:15:00 AM

Well, I don't understand that because I use .024 Halo for serving, and .020 BCY Nock Tying thread for my nocking points, and it works great. And my nocking points adjust easily, and stay put with no glue once I set them.

Been doing it this way for years (did not start using Halo till a couple years ago) and never had any issues.

Bisch

LBR · October 13, 2015, 10:20:00 AM

The correct way is the one that works for you. I only use adjustable nock points during tuning--once I find the spot, I want it to stay in place. For tuning, I use the alternating half-hitch--works fine for me.

As with a lot of things in this sport, there's no one "right" way.

DanielB89 · October 13, 2015, 11:47:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
Well, I don't understand that because I use .024 Halo for serving, and .020 BCY Nock Tying thread for my nocking points, and it works great. And my nocking points adjust easily, and stay put with no glue once I set them.

Been doing it this way for years (did not start using Halo till a couple years ago) and never had any issues.

Bisch

Bisch,

i think those are close enough that they wont matter, but if you tie your nocking points excessively tight, the smaller diameter will cut into the larger. I have done it both ways and both ways work very well; I just found that the larger diameter on the outside was a little easier. This is one of those scenarios, "there is more than one way to pluck a chicken" comes into play.

Jwilliam · October 14, 2015, 01:00:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by LBR:
If I remember correctly, Diamondback is a sheath over a core. Halo is 100% braided Spectra.

If that is the case, no comparison IMO. Halo is very tough and very slick. The closest materials to Halo are BCY's Power Grip (not as slick, contains some nylon) and Angel Majesty serving from Japan.

I have been using Diamondback since I started building my own strings about 7 years ago. Picked up some Powergrip from Chad at Denton Hill this year. I'm really impressed with it so far.

Bill