For years I went in a bottle and my buddy who's a biologist -- and bow hunter, used to tell me that's worse than letting er' rip. He said once oxygen hits it, deer can't tell it from anything else. However, as stated earlier, the bacteria and amonia build up is like a flag.

So about 8 years ago, I decided to try going whereever I was. I have not seen ANY negative impact that I can tell. However, I've even went on a down tree below me once and had two bucks and a doe feeding on it. And I always go in a scrape.

I guess it's ok.

If you wanna keep your "impact"on the area as small as possible ,pee straight down, don't arc it!!

QuoteOriginally posted by 8th Dwarf:
Here is the key thought to all of this...

URINE IS URINE!!!!!  

Tissues????  Heck, I just lean out and close one nostril off and let 'er rip!  NEVER had a problem.  I have dribbled saliva right on a deer's nose QUITE A FEW TIMES and watched them lick it off and do NOTHING!

A friend chews and spits his chew out of the stand.  The deer EAT IT!

I think we have been pounded to death BY PEOPLE WHO SELL THINGS to believe that we must buy this, buy that, do this, do that, etc.  MOST of it is just pure hawg wash!  I mean, look at this whole insane Scent Lok suit business...open Cabela's catalog.  Scent Lok will NOT keep animals from smelling you!!!!!  READ MY LIPS!  Talk to African outfitters about it...they laugh at it!  Okay, so it may...MAY...cut your scent down a LITTLE, but it is just another crutch that is made of rubber!

Too Short

I too used to chew ,spit all  the time out of the stand . I've had bucks walk right in it within minutes

:rolleyes:    

I KNOW that peeing in a bottle wont spook deer, not so sure peeing on the ground multiple times, wont.If ya hunt the same stand a few times, its gonna leave some scent, wether the deer spook is something I am not willing to gamble, I try very hard to have no impact or at least as little as possible.. to me this is going against that.  I use a small gator aide bottle I wash it out after every hunt,and have been using it to long to change.

"However, as stated earlier, the bacteria and amonia build up is like a flag."

Bacteria and amonia will build up if deposited into a bottle, but it won't do the same thing on the leaves?

Dogs, foxes, etc., all leave sign posts in the woods with nothing but their urine. Why would human urine not do the very same thing under your stand?

had to pee yesterday afternoon got down went about 50 yds. from my stand, less than 1 hour latter a for for sure 150 class buck walked less than 20 from the pee downwind never even looked that way i have seen the same thing before. IMO it doed not hury a thing.  doug77

QuoteOriginally posted by foxbo:
"However, as stated earlier, the bacteria and amonia build up is like a flag."

Bacteria and amonia will build up if deposited into a bottle, but it won't do the same thing on the leaves?

Dogs, foxes, etc., all leave sign posts in the woods with nothing but their urine. Why would human urine not do the very same thing under your stand?

i think , the microorgansims in the soil break down the bacteria in the urine , whereas in the bottle it can't be broken down. therfore you get the heavy amonia smell.

at least that's what i'm telling myself.

If you pee in a bottle, don't confuse that bottle with the one with tea in it.

I've never had a deer spook at human urine smell, and I don't carry bottles for such things.
Buy those bottles if you want to....the economy relies on such things.  

I've had bucks and does come in to my pee (took my first buck that way).

Had a big buck stop 30 yards downwind this year to challenge me after smelling my 45 minute old pee.

Had a doe come in within 2 minutes of me peeing..she was upwind so she must have heard it.  She took a few wifs and went snorting off!

In general it works for me and I will keep doing it.

QuoteOriginally posted by 8th Dwarf:
...A female rabbit is a "Doe".

Tink screwed people over like this for years...

Wait - are you saying that Tinks #69 is just rabbit pee? Is that right?  Lol - nice!

I READ AN ARTICAL THE ARTICALESAID DEER CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERANCE FROM HUMAN URINE THAN FROM A FOX OR BEAR COYOTE JUST THAT URINE WAS FROM A MEAT EATER.

To those of you who are afraid to listen to reason and still screw around with a pee bottle, I issue this challange (a MILD challange).

PEE OUT OF YOUR STAND A FEW TIMES AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS!

One great thing for a guy 64 years old...when I pee from the stand I can still pee 15 feet like I did when I was a kid!  Heck of an ego builder!

Heh, heh, heh!

Too F. Short

Hey Too Short, when you measure feet using your own 8th dwarf feet as the measuring instrument it really converts to about 5 or 6 feet in real person distance!!!   :D   Sorry Paul, I just couldn't resist that!

Have you been watching me peeing from my tree stand, bohuntr?

Too Short

I go right in a scrape when setting out trail cams it attracts and doesn't repel deer. I think you would find that shaving lotion,smoking,gasoline, fuel oil etc all would have no effect on repelling deer.

All this talk about pee!  I used to carry bottles with me to pee in but then I thought about how Indian tribes lived and hunted and then about how the early settlers must have hunted.  They didn't have a choice!  They went when and where they had too!

I got back into traditional archery to simplify things and to make my surroundings more enjoyable.  One way to simplify is to not worry about carrying an empty bottle to pee in!    

Stacker

Better out than in.

check the wind first!  

Wanna really know?????????

Then ask Charlie Lamb