Hey guys going to give trad gear another go and was wondering which FMJ you guys would suggest, this is the arrow I was planning on shooting. Also I'm assuming the 75 gr. brass inserts with heavy tips to get the FOC up there. Thanks for any input guys

What kind of bow are you shooting and how heavy up front would you like to go. 200 grains up front total with a 500 shoots nice out of my longbows but a recurve might need a 400 your on that thin line.
And if your draw is 28 then let's say your need a 29-29.5 inch arrow. Then out of a recurve I would guess a 400 there more energy out of most recurve so that will break down the spine.
I would be happy to help if you need anything. I even have some samples I can send so you can try them for yourself and see what works best for you

Gary Hall

that would be awesome! this will be out of a recurve made from a guy here in Maine, my draw length with a compound is around 28.5" and I dont care about weight for broadheads I can shoot whatever weight shoots good, I was just curious as for a good arrow  spine to start with and I could play with tip weights from there

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Yeah I would say 500s as well !
I find that that the bows using static tips and foam cores fun stiffer arrows. The bow you have sound like a good standard recurve style
Gary

a 500 is the one. If your bow is cut past center, you will be able to build out your sight window  a little to tune...if necessary.
Your draw will likely be a bit shorter than 28"s. when comparing to wheels, most lose about 1"- 1.5"
draw length.

We have them and free shipping on them too.
thanks,bigjim

I personally wouldn't shoot the FMJ over the Axis arrows. You'll increase your FOC by reducing the GPI all else being equal.

total shaft weight Axis 251.1 gr 31.0"
total shaft weight FMJ 282.1 gr 31.0"

500s should work perfectly and I'm guessing the arrow should come out at about 530 gr.

Maybe my release is affecting my arrow spine, but with my 50# @ 28" ACS longbow I have to shoot 340 spine arrows to tune right. Mine are 29.25" and I'm shooting 200 gr up front. I just don't see how so many people are shooting 500 spine arrows at that length and that draw weight.

I am shooting 500's ... 29 1/2" VON with 100 grn inserts out of a longbow and a recurve 50# @ 28

I can shoot 145 grn field points, 125 grn BH's and 175 grn BH's with this set up and all fly very well

How far past center the sight window is cut (presuming you aren't shooting off of an elevated rest) has a huge impact on what spine you need.  Overall bow performance, how much weight up front (as others have mentioned) and shaft length all play major roles in determining what spine to shoot.  It's definitely not a "one size fits all" answer.

Hey Jarhead, your bow is cut past center...I believe 3/16". That will require a significantly stiffer arrow...On top of that the full metal jacket is a micro diameter shaft. You could be close to shooting past center shot.

bigjim

What's been said already but get some varying grain weights of field tips to help tune and see how the combo of bow and arrow likes whatever grain weights. Little difference in tip weight can really show.

Just a thought. If your like me and can't leave well enough alone - well is what it is!

What was the results of this thread? I am new to trad. My buddy set me up with a few arrows for a bow new to me. 60" 49# @ 28" & I am right about 28". I keep thinking fmj's would be a nice arrow to shoot, but I definitely need some help to figure out how to proceed. the arrow I have now is a gold tip trad 30" 3×5" feathers left helical, and with either 175g or 200g field points fly straight.
Open to suggestions.  Adam

The FMJ is a wonderful arrow material.  I find them to be a little stiffer than a larger diameter carbon with the same rating. But, then they are smaller diameter and my bows are not cut to center.  

I used FMJs in Africa, and was very happy with them for such an expensive hunt.  And I shot them for all my practice there-whether at a hard target or not. That's the one qualification I feel many don't take into consideration.  It is much harder to find an arrow that flies like your FMJ AND costs less.  The small diameter does make a difference, and I consider stumping...or whatever you call it....to be an integral part of my practice.

If I were a millionaire-or if all my other arrows disappeared tomorrow-I'd simply go to FMJs and never look back.  But, that's not the case, and when I'm looking at $10-25/arrow(depending on the point, insert, etc)......it does give cause for thought!

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