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Static Tip Curves: Which Bowyers have Mastered It?

Started by Diamond Paul, October 21, 2014, 07:30:00 PM

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Diamond Paul

I've gotten interested in static tip recurves and was wondering which bowyers seem to have it down pat, in terms of a good shooting bow that is fairly resistant to having the limbs twisted, which I understand can be a problem with this design.  I've been looking at Dryad and Stalker bows.  The Stalkers look a lot like the Wes Wallace bows I've been shooting for a good while.  I'm not sold on the ILF system, as I've owned a few and they just end up giving me more options than I really want or need, but Dryad does offer a non-ILF option.  I have owned an RER static tip and did not like it at all.  It was neither quiet nor good-shooting for me.  Does this mean that I probably won't like this type of limb no matter who makes it?  Just looking for some info and opinions from people who shoot them (static tips, not RERs).
"Sometimes the shark go away, sometimes he wouldn't go away." Quint, from Jaws

LongStick64

My vote goes to Gregg Coffey of Java Man Archery. I have an Assyrian recurve, the bow draws real smooth, and the grip is perfect. The performance is sincere. A short, sweet powerhouse bow. I've tried others and they may have been smooth but not quite as powerful.
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ron w

I have had 4 RER static tip recurves and they were all fantastic......still have one. I also have 2 sets of Static limb for my ILF from Dyrad, I like them also.
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ChuckC

Everybody likes what they like.  I have a RER and like the heck out of it.
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ron w

Oh, I forgot......I have a Stalker Coyote Static recurve that should be here in the very near future....I hope it's as good as the ones I have!!
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Friend

Have only owned a Border with Hex V limbs.

The last five have all been Dryad ACS RC's....one ILF..the other four were Orions...of which I am well pleased
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johnnyk71

I guess I don't have much to add. my RER Retro is the quietest and best shooting bow I've ever owned or shot, and that includes head-to-head with a Caribow Tuktu (the second-finest static tip I've shot). my Sheepeater Spirit is also quiet and a thumper, although a tad more finicky.

my main question is how an RER could not be tuned to be quiet or good-shooting. certainly don't mean that as a slight towards Paul, as we all have different shooting styles and preferences. I just think RER has mastered the design of statics.
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nineworlds9

Gregg Coffey (Java Man), Abe Penner (Cari-bow), Mike and Jason Westvang (Dryad) are my top picks.
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nineworlds9

I just reread your OP and I really think you need to talk to Gregg and Abe.
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58" Two Tracks Ogemaw
60" Toelke Chinook
62" Tall Tines Stickflinger
64" Big Jim Mountain Monarch
64" Poison Dart LB
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see

another vote to Kevin of RER bows.one of the best made. How you didn't like it really surprises me. I own 4 and love them. Draw and quietness are superb.
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huntnmuleys

is it September yet??

pdk25

Have only shot a few, including 2 ILF designs.  My RER shot the best and was the quietest.  I join some of the others in being surprised at the OP reports.

Diamond Paul

It's been a while since I had the RER.  It was definitely loud, to me.  Had a very high-pitched sound, like some carbon limbs do.  That doesn't mean it is a bad bow; lots of very good bows haven't worked for me, but they were all well-made bows.  I've tried a couple of Black Widows because many of my friends shoot them, but they don't work for me at all.  I hate the grips on them, for one thing.  Clearly, they make a great bow and I would recommend one to others.  Same with the RER: it just did not suit me, and didn't do any of the things I had been led to believe a static tip was supposed to do FOR ME, that's all.  That's why I am wondering if this style, in anyone's bow, is going to suit me. I typically like and shoot well with any of the bows designed from the original Brackenberry model, like the Wallace and Fox bows.  That's why I was considering the Stalker:  the grip looks almost the same as my Wallace bows.  My first bow was a Wapiti, which has a tremedous hook, but is not static, and I liked it, too. What I am looking to do is go to a shorter hunting bow without the finger pinch; I have not been able to go shorter than 60" and still shoot the bow well.  I understand statics allow this.  I want to keep a lot of mass in the riser and still shoot a shorter bow.  I hate light bows and tiny little risers.  I also understand that good statics are quieter, although my experience with the RER did not bear this out.  Every Wallace or Fox bow I've had was much quieter, to my ears.  I really like the looks of the Stalker bows, but I've never seen one in person, or a Dryad.  I like the looks of the ILF Dryad better than the Orion, but could probably live with it if it shoots as well as I've read it does.
"Sometimes the shark go away, sometimes he wouldn't go away." Quint, from Jaws

halfseminole

I shoot a short Assyrian horn bow and a Mark Daniels static.  I like both, though the horn bow is a handful to shoot as it's unstable.  Mark's bow is as solid as a longbow, though.  I'd see if he has one to try if you're still looking.

Scott E

Stalker is a great bow. Dryad limbs are well known for excellent performance.

As long as you use a bow stringer you shouldn't have a problem with limb twists.

As another option I absolutely love my Toelke 64 super static.
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Diamond Paul

I use a stringer on all recurves.  Never string one without it.
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