Ok, I spent pretty much all year on the ground during deer season in a ghille suit and stool.

I used various seats and found a guy need needs to get lower that the standard 16" and needs to swivel and it needs a back. I used the ameristep swivel stool exclusively, it's ok but no back all day sits were not fun.

I ran across the shappel 360 all terrian stool, it's got a back and basically the ameristep with a back and a version of the huntmore 360.

Ok for the good part, I cut down the legs and it will allow you to go down to the 11 to 12 inch level, and if in soft dirt even lower.

I could not figure out how to post pics, but could email the mods I made.

You can get the chair online from 45 to 60 bucks. I can know stay put in them awsome ground hunting places.

I would love have the huntmore, but afraid to cut on a 200 dollar chair.

http://www.shappell.com/trailchair.html

love my Huntmore, but that's a good idea. would love to see those mods.

Tagged.    Might try one of these.

How do you get, and stay, 11-12" above the ground ?  I would never be able to get back up !

ChuckC

Looks like a great item.  Especially in a blind, light weight and very portable, fair price.

Very carefully

I would love to see your pictures.

Man I would love to see the pics of that mod.

I'll take a guess, take the adjusting lower legs out, cut the upper tubes for each leg, drill new holes for the snap adjuster to pop into ?

P.S. Good idea !

I have been using and love the tree seat...yeah I sell it, but it is because I love how it works. Both my brother and I toted ours all over the mountains of Montana.
Every time we left camp, we looked for something to leave behind..lighten the load so to speak, but it was never the tree seat.

It uses the tree as a back rest and you can set it as low as you want. Super nice to use a tree to help break up your outline. Had a cow elk look right through me at 15 yards and not spook. Sure it was a cow calf, but still an elk at 15 yards. I came to full draw and decided to take me chances and wait for something bigger.

I have a video on my site showing it in use.
thanks, bigjim

Here's my 2 cents, if there is a tree big enough to break up my outline, I will put a stand in it.

I went to the ground game to hunt places where trees big enough for stands don't exist or even treeless places, is mostly where I hunt.

Chair needs to be able to get lower, swivel and have a back, be light weight, portable and not break the bank, the shappel does that.

I can't figure out to post pic, I would gladly email my pics to soemone

That's a great option for you petite fellas, but won't hold enough for us larger guys    
I take this :  
remove the seat from the swivel (leaving the swivel attached to the base which snaps on to bucket) and then using the same screws attach this:  
and then add to any 5 gallon bucket. You can stack buckets for more height and I suppose you could cut them down too, but I really don't like to sit any lower than a standard 5 gallon bucket. Not as portable as some for sure, but if there is an area that I hunt frequently, I just take the handle off the bucket (to discourage others from walking away with) and leave it upside down in that area. I can then strap just the seat portion to my pack (have had to get a bit creative because of size / shape, but it can be done) to carry in. and it all costs about $25.00 for the first set up and then $5.00 a bucket thereafter. Works great for me. If you are interested and need any help or additional pics, PM me, but it really is very simple and self explanatory once you have the pieces in hand. The Tornado seat has an actual boat seat swivel and you can access the screws through 4 large holes on the underside of the lid. All that said, I've really been eyeing one of those tree seats big jim sells.

Regarding the Shappell trail chair, I did some research and decided to save my money.  Some reviews at Amazon were not too good, and I also got an email from a hunter who used one last season who would not buy again.  He was having difficulties with the legs collapsing at the wrong time and serious wear on some moving parts.

I guess I will stick with my Torges home made seat for now.

That swivel seat looks neat.

I just received the Millennium Tree Seat yesterday and it is super comfortable. You can put is as low as you like too. They say it weighs four pounds, but it sure doesn't feel like it weighs that much. I'm going to try it out in the morning from a natural ground blind. I also dumped the single shoulder strap and installed a set of padded backpacking straps. Seems to tote a lot easier.

Now I could probaby grow to like that Millenium.  They are not cheap, but what the heck?

Tree seats are great if there's a tree where I need it to be.

I searched and searched .... the Millennium came out with this -  http://www.millenniumstands.com/products/ground/g100-blind-chair.  

So comfortable it is hard to believe.

I used the Millennium for the first time this morning and it was the most comfortable time I've spent sitting in the woods. I only saw a squirrel, but the 3.5 hours melted away without any squirming around. It is a great seat!

That blind chair looks like what most guys are wanting in a hunting seat. It's got everything and you don't need a pack mule to carry it!