Getting carbons up to weight

bornofmud · August 10, 2014, 02:21:00 PM

Just put in an order for some 5575 gold tip trads, but after doing the calculations realized I'm going to be shooting about 7.5 gpp, would like to get it closer to 9 gpp. My tips are 125gr, any other way to add weight? Maybe weighted tip inserts or will that give the arrow too much front end weight?

TaterHill Archer · August 10, 2014, 02:27:00 PM

Weighted inserts, aquarium tubing, heavier broadheads

August 10, 2014, 02:41:00 PM

100 grain brass inserts will add the weight......but you will either have to make the shaft several inches longer or use the next heavier spine to make the arrows tune the same.

Bisch

fnshtr · August 10, 2014, 03:18:00 PM

Don't know your draw length or bow weight but I shoot the same arrow with 100 grain brass inserts and with a 125 grain head I have about a 520 grain arrow. At my draw length of 27 1/2" that gives me a tad over 10 gpp.

You must shoot a heavier bow. ????

fnshtr · August 10, 2014, 03:21:00 PM

You must be shooting about 56 # or an arrow longer than 29". Give us your arrow length and weight at your draw and we may be able to help.

Either way... good luck.

Butch Speer · August 10, 2014, 04:41:00 PM

.105 weed trimmer line works good and it's cheap. Before you push the last end in the arrow, fold it in half. Keeps it from moving around.

str8jct · August 10, 2014, 04:49:00 PM

I always used the 50 or 100gr brass inserts in GT arrows.

brianbfree · August 10, 2014, 04:54:00 PM

I shoot 5575's 100 grain brass inserts and 125 points my bow is 55@29 and they shoot great

Pointer · August 10, 2014, 06:10:00 PM

lots of good ideas listed here..another is 3/16" braided nylon/poly rope..I leave it an inch long to help stop it moving around in there..

96ssportsp · August 10, 2014, 06:39:00 PM

I am shocked that nobody realizes gt 's have threaded inserts . Buy the GT tool, some 20. & 50 grain weights & make your arrow any weight you want. Big Jim carries what you need, or. 3 Rivers . Good luck, Scott.

D.J. Carr · August 10, 2014, 08:59:00 PM

I shoot the same arrows cut to 29 100 grain insert and 175 grain head. i shoot #50@ 28 and i draw 27". and they shoot great.

str8jct · August 10, 2014, 09:04:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by 96ssportsp:
I am shocked that nobody realizes gt 's have threaded inserts . Buy the GT tool, some 20. & 50 grain weights & make your arrow any weight you want. Big Jim carries what you need, or. 3 Rivers . Good luck, Scott.

I used those once, I will stop short of calling them junk. More effect on arrow balance and FOC than brass inserts and they came loose even though I used a bit of Loctite.

bornofmud · August 10, 2014, 11:58:00 PM

Thanks for the help everyone, think I'll go with the brass inserts. The arrows are 30.5", bow is 60#, think the spine will still be fine with the inserts, bow is cut past center.

ishoot4thrills · August 11, 2014, 06:15:00 AM

If they turn out too weak, just add material to the side plate. That's what I've been doing for years.

96ssportsp · August 11, 2014, 09:12:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by str8jct:

QuoteOriginally posted by 96ssportsp:
I am shocked that nobody realizes gt 's have threaded inserts . Buy the GT tool, some 20. & 50 grain weights & make your arrow any weight you want. Big Jim carries what you need, or. 3 Rivers . Good luck, Scott.
I used those once, I will stop short of calling them junk. More effect on arrow balance and FOC than brass inserts and they came loose even though I used a bit of Loctite. [/b]

Funny.....ironic....I have just the opposite problem, can't get them out very easily. They work great for me.....but some say I am different. :D

JARHEAD1371 · August 11, 2014, 09:52:00 AM

I have used the GT weights for quite a while with excellent results. I use a good melting glue for the inserts, just heat a field point to remove them, and add or subtract the weights. I have never had one come loose. Using them really allows me to fine tune my shafts.

3arrows · August 11, 2014, 05:54:00 PM

Been using heat glue for over 20 yrs and GT shafts no problem.

randy grider · August 11, 2014, 05:55:00 PM

im betting that unless this guy is shooting over 80#'s at 28-30 inches the 55/75's will need this 100 grain insert to even be close to the right spine, and it better be left full length at that.

ozy clint · August 11, 2014, 11:50:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by randy grider:
im betting that unless this guy is shooting over 80#'s at 28-30 inches the 55/75's will need this 100 grain insert to even be close to the right spine, and it better be left full length at that.

x2.
going to be way too stiff.

i now shoot 500 spine with 350gr upfront out of my 58# border. for a couple of years i struggled to get good flight because i was using 400 spine thinking they should be the right spine. they are not, they are too stiff. i now believe that most people are shooting arrows that are too stiff.

Flying Dutchman · August 12, 2014, 12:29:00 AM

I use this stuff. 30 inches adds appr. 50 grains. Very easy to apply and very durable. Take care it is a little bit longer then your shaft, and push it in the nock, so it is under pressure in your shaft. If you do it correct, no rattling or whatsoever. If you want to add 100 grains, use two. Since it is flexible, your nocks won't be launched by impact.
I payed $5,25 for 30 feet.