Hot melt... Loosing point question

plentycoupe · March 16, 2014, 10:26:00 AM

Hey all.
So by now I would think I should have this figured out. I constantly loose points in the targets when using hot melt. Carpet targets. Rhineheart. 3d.
I don't know what I am doin wrong.

Will some of you that have great success with hot melt tell me your techniques.

Tha is.

Rob W. · March 16, 2014, 10:32:00 AM

You will get a lot of good advice but for me switching to AMG super 735 hot melt made a world of difference.

Pat B · March 16, 2014, 10:40:00 AM

Are you degreasing the points first. Also you can rough up the inside of the point socket with sand paper then soak them in acetone or alcohol. I've also heard f folks threading the inside of the point socket to ad resistance.
Drastic temp changer like between the inside of your house to the outside can cause expansions and contractions causing the hot glue seal to break loose.

mooseman1967 · March 16, 2014, 10:42:00 AM

Clean the inside of the point with sandpaper rolled into a cone. Work the paper in it till it is shiny and rough looking then blow out the sandpaper dust. Melt a little glue on to the shaft taper then heat the inside of the point till it is hot enough to melt the glue when you seat it on the shaft with pliers. Haven't lost points since I started using sandpaper years ago. I like a softer hotmelt like what Big Jim sells. Dave

Shedrock · March 16, 2014, 11:39:00 AM

Like others said, clean the inside well. When I put points on, I turn them to evenly distribute the glue, then a half turn back, then cooling with water while keeping pressure down on the point with a pliers. I rarely loose a point.

Hummer3T · March 16, 2014, 11:42:00 AM

I stopped using hot melt, I use epoxy or even fletch tight with way better results.

Hummer3T · March 16, 2014, 11:42:00 AM

I stopped using hot melt, I use epoxy or even fletch tight with way better results.

slowbowjoe · March 16, 2014, 11:45:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by Shedrock:
Like others said, clean the inside well. When I put points on, I turn them to evenly distribute the glue, then a half turn back, then cooling with water while keeping pressure down on the point with a pliers. I rarely loose a point.

Like this. Clean, rough up a little, and be sure to cool down the point (while holding it in place with pliers. Take your time.

JRY309 · March 16, 2014, 12:31:00 PM

I have lost a few points in 3D targets.I stopped using Ferr-l-lite,it is not as strong and becomes too brittle.I use Saunder's hot melt or a white colored hot melt stick.They are stronger and more pliable.I also take a NPT 1/16-27 pipe tap and tap some threads in the point tapers.This will give it some teeth to hold the point on.I didn't loose any more points after doing them this way.

M60gunner · March 16, 2014, 02:31:00 PM

I use the point taper brush from 3rivers to clean and rough up the inside of point. I then soak in acetone and wipe out with q-tip. I use the white hot melt or the stick from 3rivers. Ferr-l-tite becomes brittle after awhile.
If I had the coin I would try those new screw on points. No glue, no point taper.

jrbows · March 16, 2014, 05:04:00 PM

A .38 caliber bore brush works well for cleaning inside of a tip also.

Stump73 · March 16, 2014, 05:15:00 PM

x2 BigJims hot melt glue.
sand the insde of the shaft to rough it up. then put acetone on Qtip. dont forget to use acetone on the insert also.

Wheels2 · March 16, 2014, 05:37:00 PM

ThreeRivers sells a brush for the inside of the points. Make sure to clean them with acetone. I use Ferr-L-Tite low temp glue. This is the new blue stick stuff. Does not require as much heat and gold much better than the original formula

March 16, 2014, 06:26:00 PM

I only use Stanley Amber. It takes a bit more heat than the soft stuff, it will keep your points on.

antler chaser · March 16, 2014, 09:07:00 PM

you may be getting the glue to hot, and taking the adhesive out,like stated above dip in cool water,good luck.

Stumpkiller · March 16, 2014, 09:54:00 PM

I use Bohning hot melt, heated over a paint stripper electric heat gun held in a vice, and before use clean the oils out of the points with acetone or solvent alcohol and a twisted paper-towel "cone" to get up inside.

arrow flynn · March 17, 2014, 12:42:00 AM

2 part epoxy never come off

Jon Stewart · March 17, 2014, 07:29:00 AM

I picked up a couple of thread taps for cheap at a yard sale. I turn them inside the point and then clean with alcohol and a Q-tip. That scuffs up the inside the point good.

KentuckyTJ · March 17, 2014, 08:31:00 AM

Yep, clean inside of shaft very well then use the right hot melt.

http://www.shop.bigjimsbowcompany.com/Quick-Stick-Hot-Melt-Glue-AA102.htm

plentycoupe · March 17, 2014, 09:46:00 AM

Thanks all!!