When I was able to climb I had the Summit Razor. Like others have said the bar will fold under the seat. You get the benefit of being able to sit and climb and then fold the bar out of the way. It was a very quiet and comfortable stand.

GregD- Yeah number one don't stand next to the tree. In the old days I had an old Baker stand. That's the first thing you learned. It'd turn loose... And it was a bumpy ride to the bottom.

Summit Viper doesn't have enough room to stand back there but also unless you got a tiny foot... It doesn't fit in the opening there.







Here's a few pics of my favorite stand currently ( I have a number of ladders and hang ons and 2 other Goliaths) the Summit Viper SD. I've got mine rigged up to be a little more comfortable for me to pack.

I use a Treewalker.

I was standing sideways on mine with my left shoulder tight to the tree I moved my left foot closer to the tree put it down and went right through. I had an old loggy bayou that would drop if you shifted your weight toward the tree, in fact if the tree was wet it might drop no matter where you were standing. that one you always stayed alert in. I had a couple of trailhawks that I think were made in Wisconsin, once they were set they would not move no matter what you did. In fact they wanted you to put your foot tight to the tree and give a stomp. It really tore up the bark though. I've never had any slippage with my Lonewolf although sometime it doesn't seem to set properly and I need to move up or down a foot and reset it

I had a lone wolf sit and climb that I liked for my wheelie bow.  But for the trad bow it seemed like the side pieces and front stabilizer bar got in the way.  I've had a lone wolf alpha and 3 lone wolf sticks for about 10 years and its never let me down.  I can do the same things a climber can (plus sit in a lot of trees that a climber can't) and feel like I'm better off.  I've looked at other stands but I don't think I'd gain anything but going back to a climber.

I love my lone wolf. It is sturdy and easy to pack in. I can't speak to the other stand.

Been an Ol' Man Vision user for 30 years and today I recieved my Summit Specialist S D. I'll know tomorrow how comfortable it is. It should be shooter friendly with it's open front design and at 16 lbs. should pack in well on the long walks I make on public land (to get away from yuppies). I noticed these stands come rigged for carrying cables down but I'm about to go reverse it so I can hook my backpack straps over the stubs at the blade ends. I'll report back if it's worth sharing.

I just got a lone wolf sit and climb II for Christmas.   I'm breaking it in tomorrow morning.  It has a sling seat and a pad that goes against the tree that seems to be an improvement in comfort design over earlier models.  I'm anxious to give it a go.

Ol-man has one that looks like it could be good, the Alumalite CTS

I have a summit open shot and like it it's very comfy, but wish I had a LW. Just cost to much more to justify buying one, I don't use a climber that much anyways.... just another tool in my bag for that special job.

If anyone has used an Ol-man climber with that swung down type foot rest can you answer a question I have.
My question is, can you put the top section extra low/close to bottom section and sit with your feet on the foot rest and then when you stand up on the bottom platform to shoot have plenty of bow clearence with the top section being down low?
The mesh seat and foot rest on they're stand looks real comfortable.

Thanks in advance

Ryan, I have hunted with the ol man for years and I set it exactly as you described while bowhunting with it and it works Ok, but I received a Lone Wolf Hand Climber for Christmas  that I'm planning on using for bowhunting for the added clearance and easier carrying.
     The net seat on the Ol man is  the most comfortable I've ever used.
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The seat on the ol man is very comfortable that's why I got the mesh seat for my summit stands. Yes u can flip the bar around and use it for a foot rest or u can take it off. I sold my ol man stand because it didn't climb trees well. It would slip a lot I think it was because of the adjustable arm bars. It was easy to pack and carry but climbing was its down fall. The seat is awesome and I'm glad I tried it because it made my sits a lot more comfortable.

Bill,
I don't know where you live in MD but my offer still stands if you want to try a Lone Wolf climber or hang on. That way you could have tried one in person and not taken someone else's word for it.

I have 3 Chippewa wedge-loc stands 2-Chiefs & 1-Quest model, these are lock-on's that I love and have been my sole stands for years. But I've also been wanting to add a climber to the mix.

After a lot of web research and searches here on TG, to figure out what I want & don't want in a climber. I think I've come up with the one?

I'm looking real hard at a Cougar Claw, either the Cougar's Cub Sport 17# open front.

Or the Cougar's Super Sport 20# open front, it's just a little roomier than the Cub Sport and has a folding bar instead of a strap for climbing.

Does anyone have experience with these stands? They are made in the USA in Foley, AL

Not meaning to hijack Bullfrog 1s thread, I hope it doesn't come across that way. I'm just looking at climbers also & thought this would be a good place to ask questions.

Thanks