Centex,
Maybe because I don't measure it the way your talking but I ALWAYS measure from the belly side of the shelve to the string for brace so I don't have a different brace on my Morningstar or Northstar than on my vixen or misty dawn.  They all run around 6.5-6.25 BH

Thanks Ron, I'll take you up on that. Brian, I already have to have one, and I haven't even shot one yet. The design just makes sense. That black walnut bow of Rick's just sealed the deal!I have a medium reflex deflex with hickory cores and black walnut veneers and BW riser. It is by far one of my favorite bows to shoot for the simple reason I just shoot it well. It has a feel to the shot I get from no other bow. I don't know if it has anything to do with the walnut, but it sure looks good.I love that manly man dark brown wood.I think a reverse handle Hill style with BW cores and veneers would be the perfect next bow. I only have about 10 bows, whats one more! Help!!

My new to me  Hill Owl came to me today. 70" 50#@31", Brown glass on the back 3 lams of boo and Osage on the belly under clear glass. I only got to shoot it a few times before errands had to be taken care of, but it seems to be a real nice shooter. I think this bow is going to see a lot of time in the woods.

ron -

Grounds rules here....you are prohibited from talking about or referring to a new to you Hill bow without including any pics!          

Danny

Just checked tracking and my new JD Berry Vixen is in the mail truck riding around town awaiting delivery.........

I'm  a bit tech challenged......I couldn't even get them off my camera let alone post them.  

Any of you Hill shooters shot "The Expedition"?  I think it is made by David Miller since you can reach the page form his website.... Does it shoot well enough to justify the extra price?
I don't understand all the concave/convex stuff  

The vixen has arrived.  My post will follow

Cool Brian.    

Blaino - I have an Expedition and it was worth every penny (for me a least). The concave / convex thing refers tho the lams. Rather than being flat ground they have a cross-section like a tape measure and are stacked on top of each other (if that makes sense).

If you have any questions feel free to drop me a PM.

Brian - more pics!

Rossco,
I made a post on the powwow. Full of pics!!

QuoteOriginally posted by ron w:
My new to me  Hill Owl came to me today. 70" 50#@31", Brown glass on the back 3 lams of boo and Osage on the belly under clear glass. I only got to shoot it a few times before errands had to be taken care of, but it seems to be a real nice shooter. I think this bow is going to see a lot of time in the woods.

WITHOUT PICS it didn't happen....

Yes it did.....I was there! Plus, as much as I like them they all look pretty much the same!!

Ron
At first glance I'd say most of them look similar but there are those subtle differences that stand out (speaking of same bouwer)

Rossco,
In regards to the convex, concave limbs. Isn't that what put O.L. and the ACS on the map? I thought he patented that design, or am I totally off base?

I know that Brianlocal3......that was just my response to the no photo remark. I'm not tech savy and that's that. Heck my phone is still on the wall......

For Ron W,

These aren't great pictures of Ron's Owl, but hopefully they'll keep him out of hot water!

Hope you don't mind Ron.

Terry K.

Ha ha !!!!!  Gotcha Ron. Well enjoy the bow and let us all know about it.

Far rider,
Howard patented the cc/cv before those guys. They altered  it enough to repatened under their design

oh my, that's gorgeous!! I LOVE colored on back clear on belly.......

Far rider - Brian is correct. The thing that sold me on the Expedition is the fact that it is constructed exactly how Howard made his personal bows. The cc/cv design makes for a faster bow with lighter more rigid limbs.

I'm probably too poor a shot to ever tell a difference like Howard could but I love the nostalgia factor - and it is indeed a very sweet shooter.